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Halo	10-29-2012 05:30 PM

Vitt wasn't going to be the answer

I read post after post how Vitt's return was going to motivate the team all the way to the Superbowl.

And I would always say I felt he was no different or better than Kromer.

I personally believe shoving Kromer aside to shove Vitt in as Coach after Kromer was with the team for 6 weeks was a mistake.
What a way to break up the little bit of chemistry the team developed over the prior 6 weeks. :rolleyes:

Vitt was in command last night and the team looked lethargic and identical to some of the preseason games when they were lifeless with Vitt as head coach.

Vitt didn't exactly do a great job as head coach last season when Sean Payton got hurt. The Tampa Bay game was full of stupid clock management. Don't even get me started on the Rams game. Just remember, there was a rush to bring Sean Payton back ASAP.

Kromer grew up with the team in his 6 weeks and the past 2 weeks the team was animated and played with SOME heart. Last night was a joke.

Not knocking Vitt, but to everyone who thinks he is some kind of savior, you were wrong. Now that Vitt is the head coach, it may take another few weeks for the team to come back to life, but it's too late to switch back to Kromer.

Entire situation is a HOT ridiculous mess. But seriously, I have no idea what the linebackers coach (Vitt) was going to do different than the o-line coach (Kromer) at the helm. Being a head coach is a lot more than just funny press conferences and tough talk (just ask Jet fans and they'll tell you why Rex Ryan stinks). It sucks because Kromer was just coming into his own ONLY to be interrupted by Vitt.

CharityMike

10-29-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 453057)

I read post after post how Vitt's return was going to motivate the team all the way to the Superbowl.

And I would always say I felt he was no different or better than Kromer.

I personally believe shoving Kromer aside to shove Vitt in as Coach after Kromer was with the team for 6 weeks was a mistake.
What a way to break up the little bit of chemistry the team developed over the prior 6 weeks.

Vitt was in command last night and the team looked lethargic and identical to some of the preseason games when they were lifeless with Vitt as head coach.

Vitt didn't exactly do a great job as head coach last season when Sean Payton got hurt. The Tampa Bay game was full of stupid clock management. Don't even get me started on the Rams game. Just remember, there was a rush to bring Sean Payton back ASAP.

Kromer grew up with the team in his 6 weeks and the past 2 weeks the team was animated and played with SOME heart. Last night was a joke.

Not knocking Vitt, but to everyone who thinks he is some kind of savior, you were wrong. Now that Vitt is the head coach, it may take another few weeks for the team to come back to life, but it's too late to switch back to Kromer.

Entire situation is a HOT ridiculous mess. But seriously, I have no idea what the linebackers coach (Vitt) was going to do different than the o-line coach (Kromer) at the helm. Being a head coach is a lot more than just funny press conferences and tough talk (just ask Jet fans and they'll tell you why Rex Ryan stinks). It sucks because Kromer was just coming into his own ONLY to be interrupted by Vitt.

Vitt shouldn't even be a coach on our team much less the one running it. Our linebackers have sucked forever. So right there he obviously not a great coach. He has been in NFL 1/2 or more of his life and what does he have to show for it? And for the love of all that is holy..why the f**k is he calling the defensive plays???

Halo	10-29-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 453062)

Look, I'm not knocking the guy as a coach, or linebacker coach. He is also dealt the talent given to him - he's not the personnel guy.

But taking Kromer out on a 2 game win streak was dumb. They were just starting to play normal ball - Kromer found an angle.

This is not like swapping a hard drive out on a computer or swapping a motor out on a car. Coaching is 1000000 times more complicated.

|Mitch|

10-29-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 453065)

But taking Kromer out on a 2 game win streak was dumb. They were just starting to play normal ball - Kromer found an angle.

This! The offense was clicking and the defense was showing improvement, then we totally throw off everything with a quick head coach change...

CharityMike

10-29-2012 05:48 PM

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I hear ya. I guess my roundabout point was, he is hardly a good coach and he has been out for 6 weeks of football. Then he comes in and is calling the plays?? I don't expect you to agree with my feelings on Vitt but IMO he has done nothing and its blown up 10 fold this year because Payton is not here.

I agree totally about Kromer. As crappy as we started out, we could see some progress and each game got a little better. Mr. big bad bossman comes back and he just starts taking over sh!t and our team played worse than it had all season. Coincidence?

neugey

10-29-2012 06:22 PM

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God help us ... we're the first team in NFL history with a coach controversy :(. Thanks Goodell!

TheEnigma

10-29-2012 07:20 PM

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I didn't think he would be the answer to begin with. Need Payton back.

pinch

10-29-2012 07:49 PM

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There has been only one constant between our two coaches: the sorry-ass players on the field. We're plagued by bad play, simple as that.

This defense needs to be blown-up with an atom bomb. No offense can survive the worse defense in league history.

saintsfan1976

10-29-2012 07:59 PM

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I hate Roger Goodell

SloMotion

10-30-2012 07:11 AM

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Makes sense, in hockey you ride a hot-goalie until he burns out, why wouldn't you stick with a coach that's winning?

I thought maybe the return of Vitt would continue the momentum gained under Kromer, but I guess having to adjust to yet another coaching change was a little too much for the team ... <sigh> ... <whew>.

RailBoss

10-30-2012 10:12 AM

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There is no answer this is the punishment everyone connected to the Saints is going to suffer this season. There is a reason why successful head coachs are where they are.
This is just a roller coaster ride, the good news is it will be over soon unless you fall off.

Rugby Saint II

10-30-2012 02:40 PM

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Has anybody else noticed that our LB'ers consistently suck? Now, who is our LB'er coach? Oh yeah, some guy named Joe Vitt.

lumm0x

10-30-2012 02:43 PM

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If nothing else I was hoping it would allow Kromer to focus more on the o-line and our run game and improve blocking and protection there while allowing for a more experienced hand in clock management decisions and situational game decisions. Some may be right about taking the reigns away from the hot hand but frankly we were lucky to win versus San Diego and Tampa Bay and I don't think even a decent effort would have matched Denver on Sunday.

CharityMike

10-30-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 453273)

Has anybody else noticed that our LB'ers consistently suck? Now, who is our LB'er coach? Oh yeah, some guy named Joe Vitt.

Finally!! Some one else to beat that drum with me! Glad I am not the only one :)

AlaskaSaints

10-30-2012 07:39 PM

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The one step in the right direction --->

I did not see ONE Scott Shanle walk-by all night!!! WOO HOO !!!!

Small victories are victories nonetheless.

Alaska

MatthewT

10-31-2012 01:30 AM

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I believe both guys (Kromer and Vitt) were dealt an incredibly bad hand. Neither guy was put into a situation where they can succeed. With that said, for better or worse, I think the Saints organization fumbled this one big time. I get that Vitt is second in charge, but seriously, when Vitt got handed that 6 game suspension the reins should have been handed over to Kromer for the entire season, should have been end of story. Believe me, even when Kromer was on that 0-4 streak I felt the same as I do now.

WillSaints81

10-31-2012 06:54 AM

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Lets see how we do against the eagles before throwing Vitt under the bus. This game was in Denver against a team coming off a bye week and please look at Manning teams' results coming off a bye.................

2010
Blowout win at home against texans
2009
Blowout win in St.Louis
2008
Rusty from bursa sac removal surgery, but came back against texans on the road
2007
blowout win in Jacksonville in primetime
2006
blowout win against redskins, but let them score late to make the game closer than it was.
2005
blowout win in NEW ENGLAND

Those results speak for itself.

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