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SaintGup 11-05-2012 11:09 PM

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Having just watched the game, I came up with a conclusion; I don't care how many yards a team gets against us as long as our Defense does what it did in the red zone tonight. Sure, there were places we needed improving but let's be honest, after what we've been seeing this season, I'll take this anytime. Brees didn't need to carry the team as we had a balance not seen for a while. We got pressure like I have never seen since I can't remember and that yielded 7 sacks! Yes, against other teams we may have problems but I don't care as, for now, I am thrilled with our win. Geaux Saints! Black and Gold forever.

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bobdog86 11-05-2012 11:14 PM

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Agreed. All I care about really is seeing improvement. Although we gave up a butt load of yards, we made some actual defensive plays. I'm very pleased with the win, Drew was a little sloppy tonight, but that Eagle D can put some pressure on ya.

Halo 11-05-2012 11:24 PM

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I'll take the win

SaintsBro 11-05-2012 11:41 PM

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How did the offense do with the 3 and outs? I thought so.

WhoDat!656 11-05-2012 11:45 PM

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Personally, I don't give a fat rat's a$$ if a team throws for a 1,000 yds and rushes for a 1,000 yds against the Saints as long as when the clock read 00:00 4th quarter, the Saints have at least one more point than the other team!

Beastmode 11-06-2012 01:33 AM

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The Eagles were short three on the OL. Against an average OL we can't get 10% of the pressure we got tonight and that is the reality of it.

The Eagles numbers are also scewed because we scored on defense. I'm deducting the 92 yards or whatever it was from their total because that is what we jacked from em'. I do think though our RB's looked outstanding against a formidable defense. The blocking up front, looked sharp most of the night. If they can keep doing that we could just sneak in.

CharityMike 11-06-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 454626)
How did the offense do with the 3 and outs? I thought so.

Well to think we are going to score on every possesion is unrealistic. The other team gets paid to. The problem is as of late, is the drops at key times. What is Grahams deal this year?

As far as yards go, yeah they had a bunch of rushing yards but how many points did they get from rushing the ball? Exactly!

The yards they got were mainly in garbage time. Take a 100 yards off Vicks throwing numbers and he had like 150 yards passing. We played stout in the redzone and thats what matters. We got pressure all night.

I'll take the win and the confidence boost. After what we have seen from our D this year, does anyone really think we are just going to show up one game and shut it all down??? We played a good game but from the sound of most you'd think we just played the Broncos again. Can we just enjoy the best Defensive performance of the year?

RaginCajun83 11-06-2012 09:52 AM

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At the end of the season, they don't ask how you won? they ask how many you won? I'll take an ugly win over a tough lose any week

TheOak 11-06-2012 11:41 AM

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An ugly win is not reproducible... You don't know what to fix... You'll not face the same team next week...

When you are 8-2 ill take an ugly win.

When you are 2-8 we need to know what is working and what isn't.

jnormand 11-06-2012 12:09 PM

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I don't think the win was fugly. I thought it was solid. Yeah they piled up some yards....I don't really care. We won decidedly. Defense forced turnovers and the offense was balanced. **** the yards.

Rugby Saint II 11-06-2012 12:50 PM

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Hmmmm....................:popcorn:

TheOak 11-06-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 454772)
I don't think the win was fugly. I thought it was solid. Yeah they piled up some yards....I don't really care. We won decidedly. Defense forced turnovers and the offense was balanced. **** the yards.


The reason we are calling it ugly is because on defense we have only been able to do this to this crippled team...

We have 20 sacks for the season and 7 of them were last night.

CharityMike 11-06-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454789)
The reason we are calling it ugly is because on defense we have only been able to do this to this crippled team...

We have 20 sacks for the season and 7 of them were last night.

Yeah but one can argue we have not really been blitzing much up until last night. No? Is this the beginning of things to come (as in pressure)?

Look the D did what was suppose to do. We took advantage of a crappy O line. Just think how much you would be *****in had we not gotten the sacks or the pressure. Be happy we got what we got.

lumm0x 11-06-2012 02:29 PM

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I agree that until now we just weren't blitzing as much. We were trying to get basic front 4 pressures and doing on mixing in man and zone coverages to no effect whatsoever. Granted perhaps Spags chose to change to this because of a crippled o-line opponent, but regardless I would like to see us employ this approach going forward. It's clear we can't get any pressure normally unless it's a coverage sack and we are also getting gashed no matter what defense we run so we may as well run one that has the potential to force a mistake or generate a splash play.

TheOak 11-06-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 454814)
Yeah but one can argue we have not really been blitzing much up until last night. No? Is this the beginning of things to come (as in pressure)?

Look the D did what was suppose to do. We took advantage of a crappy O line. Just think how much you would be *****in had we not gotten the sacks or the pressure. Be happy we got what we got.

Nailing the drunk chick in a bar doesn't mean I am a better looking guy.


Not 8itch1ng.. Just perspective.

TheOak 11-06-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 454829)
I agree that until now we just weren't blitzing as much. We were trying to get basic front 4 pressures and doing on mixing in man and zone coverages to no effect whatsoever. Granted perhaps Spags chose to change to this because of a crippled o-line opponent, but regardless I would like to see us employ this approach going forward. It's clear we can't get any pressure normally unless it's a coverage sack and we are also getting gashed no matter what defense we run so we may as well run one that has the potential to force a mistake or generate a splash play.


Spaggs blitzed not because he thought we were better, but because he knew Vick was the most hit QB in football.

He exploited... Do not expect that against Atlanta.

CharityMike 11-06-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454832)
He exploited

EXACTLY

So why all the pissin and moaning? Not just from you but many. We did what we were suppose to do but instead of acknowleding it, many are bashing it. Just don't make sense to me.

TheOak 11-06-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 454835)
EXACTLY

So why all the pissin and moaning? Not just from you but many. We did what we were suppose to do but instead of acknowleding it, many are bashing it. Just don't make sense to me.

Mike... I am not pissing and moaning... Some seem to think there will be the same exploit Sunday against Atlanta... If we do this twice ill stop putting things into perspective..

If we sack Matty Fleice 7 times on Sunday, BBQ for this ENTIRE board at my house.

Danno 11-06-2012 02:37 PM

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Its the classic bend but don't break.

CharityMike 11-06-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454836)
Mike... I am not pissing and moaning... Some seem to think there will be the same exploit Sunday against Atlanta... If we do this twice ill stop putting things into perspective..

If we sack Matty Fleice 7 times on Sunday, BBQ for this ENTIRE board at my house.

Well let ME be clear. I am not one who thinks we will repeat this performance next week. I am not delusional. I am just hoping we don't just sit back in zone and wait for the front 4 to apply pressure. If that happens, it's gonna be the same results as it's been all year.

TheOak 11-06-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 454840)
Well let ME be clear. I am not one who thinks we will repeat this performance next week. I am not delusional. I am just hoping we don't just sit back in zone and wait for the front 4 to apply pressure. If that happens, it's gonna be the same results as it's been all year.

DITTO! What I found intriguing was Vitt saying "we are not changing anything" and it sure looked like things were changed to me.:confused:

blackangold 11-06-2012 03:06 PM

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The play calling on D was different...

For the first time I saw spags actually mix it up and call different plays and zone blitzes. We had 7 sacks without our best pass rusher on the field.

Rell&Gold 11-06-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454830)
Nailing the drunk chick in a bar doesn't mean I am a better looking guy.


Not 8itch1ng.. Just perspective.

Nope but thats a win your book right?

TheOak 11-07-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 454868)
Nope but thats a win your book right?

Until you see her in the morning.... Then you just cant unsee some things.


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