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dizzle88 11-06-2012 04:10 AM

Refs call Martez for illegal hit on sack - PICTURE EVIDENCE
 
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Okay so.......tell me where is the illegal hit there?

no helmet to helmet, vick lowered his helmet and martez wrapped him up and smacked him with the shoulder pad

SloMotion 11-06-2012 05:51 AM

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Yeah, I did not like that call purely from the standpoint that Vick was going into a crouch in anticipation of being sacked and any helmet-to-helmet contact by Martez was incidental.

I thought it was going to be a long night with the officials, but it turned out alright ... didn't like the call on the early completion for Vick either (Vitt challenged it & lost), where the ball clearly hit the turf & even kicked something up before being ruled caught.

TheOak 11-06-2012 06:48 AM

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The catch was a catch... The ball can touch the turk.. However he had clear control of it the entire time.

The penalty was BS.

jlouhill 11-06-2012 06:50 AM

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Im all for the safety factor when it comes to the head. But these helmet to helmet calls are getting ridiculous. And I agree, rules or not, that was NOT a catch.

jeanpierre 11-06-2012 06:55 AM

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I'm just glad the calls didn't turn the game the other way...

Otherwise, we'd have to go and get all Braveheart and placed effigy heads of the refs along with certain NFL officials on pikes outside the Dome...

skymike 11-06-2012 06:56 AM

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I knew it was bull**** in fast motion.

what do they want him to do? pull his panties?

RaginCajun83 11-06-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 454668)
I'm just glad the calls didn't turn the game the other way...

Otherwise, we'd have to go and get all Braveheart and placed effigy heads of the refs along with certain NFL officials on pikes outside the Dome...

Good thing that BS call didn't determine the final outcome, but can we still do the whole heads on a stick thing anyways, I can think of a few people from the home office that I'd like to see taken care of that way

Beastmode 11-06-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454666)
The catch was a catch... The ball can touch the turk.. However he had clear control of it the entire time.

The penalty was BS.

I hope they change that rule regardless. There needs to be slightly bigger window of the ball being caught and hitting the ground. If it happens simultaneously, or very close to it, the physics of the force on the ground plays a role. When you watch it in slow motion it make it appear it does not.

I also hope that helmet to helmet hits become something that can be challenged in the future. That is a severe penalty that does not take into account the dynamics of hitting, only the sound. The defender could make a clean hit only to get a flag thrown by a QB slightly moving their head, much like the NBA flop.

WhoDat!656 11-06-2012 11:48 AM

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If the ball had MOVED while the receiver had his hands on it, it would have been ruled incomplete, but since it never moved, even though it was kicking up the Field Turf pellets, is why it was ruled correctly a catch.

The penalty on Wilson's sack of Vick is 100% Bovine Scatology!

TheOak 11-06-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 454756)
If the ball had MOVED while the receiver had his hands on it, it would have been ruled incomplete, but since it never moved, even though it was kicking up the Field Turf pellets, is why it was ruled correctly a catch.

The penalty on Wilson's sack of Vick is 100% Bovine Scatology!

exactly... it was more his fingers than the ball knocking up Pseudodirt. Once the ball hit his hands it never moved.

Speedy Ron 11-06-2012 11:53 AM

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who cares...we won

TheOak 11-06-2012 11:54 AM

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Thats the spirit

TheOak 11-06-2012 11:55 AM

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Martez is going to be looked at closely... He was also the one that Denver was crying about.

TheOak 11-06-2012 12:02 PM

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Martez should be coaching the rest of the defense on tackling...


SloMotion 11-06-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454666)
The catch was a catch... The ball can touch the turk.. However he had clear control of it the entire time.

The penalty was BS.

Yeah, but he had two hands on the top/side of the ball and was using the ground for control, doesn't he have to have something underneath the ball?

Rugby Saint II 11-06-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 454669)
I knew it was bull**** in fast motion.

what do they want him to do? pull his panties?

It was obvious that they were playing flag football and he was going for the flag............everybody could see that. :cool:

TheOak 11-06-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 454775)
Yeah, but he had two hands on the top/side of the ball and was using the ground for control, doesn't he have to have something underneath the ball?

here is the catch... Fingers are way below the seams

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/uploads/cho...dard_730.0.jpg

TheEnigma 11-06-2012 03:06 PM

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It was a bad call, but at least it didn't hurt us in the end and as far as that picture above goes, that was also a blown call. Ball hit the ground, should have been ruled incomplete.

SloMotion 11-06-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 454792)
here is the catch... Fingers are way below the seams

Thanks for digging that up ... fingers are below the seams but the ball is contacting the ground also? ... I guess I'll just be glad it wasn't a game-changer and the replacement refs weren't around to award the Eagles a safety or something on the play, :lol:.

foreverfan 11-06-2012 06:57 PM

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We beat the Eagles and the Refs... so... are we back?

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/images/happy_cat_png.jpg

QBREES9 11-06-2012 08:58 PM

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BS call and again we WON !

Boutte 11-07-2012 04:48 PM

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Looks good to me.
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Boutte 11-07-2012 04:50 PM

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What quarter was the catch?

Boutte 11-07-2012 05:38 PM

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He caught it.
http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-S...L/catch2-L.gifhttp://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-S.../L/catch-L.gif

TheOak 11-08-2012 06:57 AM

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Thank you! I couldnt find those when i posted...

It was a catch.

SloMotion 11-08-2012 07:14 AM

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Yeah, I guess when you see it in motion like that it does look more like he had control and just brushed the turf with the ball rather than he used the ground to gain control ... thanks for doing the legwork guys, :mrgreen:.


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