Playoffs or damaging draft pick

TheOak · 11-06-2012, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Just asking the question
Are we in a position to make the playoffs or is it time to try and put the less experienced players like Hicks into the starting line up to get them used to the system that will be used.
I have only seen bits of the last couple of games due to kick off times and work.

You play your starters until someone proves themselves to be a starter through substitution.

Always have your best on the field

jcp026 · 11-06-2012, 11:02 AM

Hoping for the playoffs, but probably just lowering our draft slot. But we have to play to win.

Beastmode · 11-06-2012, 11:19 AM

Losing on purpose to gain a highly touted pick(s), I can't think of one sound argument to persuade me it's a smart move. Every player is trying to increase their value (or should be) win or lose. This creates opportunities not only for them, but also the team. Increased trade value, increased interest from FA's, increased interests for staff wanting to get to the next level.

TheOak · 11-06-2012, 11:34 AM

Draft pics are a cr4p shoot... Look at ours.

jcp026 · 11-06-2012, 11:54 AM

OG Blaize Foltz 6th round "Freak List"
DE Margus Hunt 3rd round "Freak List"
LB Jarvis Jones 1st round
TE Joseph Fauria 5th round
QB Landry Jones or WR Quinton Patton 4th round (outside shots WAY OUTSIDE)
C Stephen Warner UD Traded our 7 for Barrett Ruud and released him a short time later.

We have a shortage of players that stand out physically.

TheOak · 11-06-2012, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by jcp026

OG Blaize Foltz 6th round "Freak List"
DE Margus Hunt 3rd round "Freak List"
LB Jarvis Jones 1st round
TE Joseph Fauria 5th round
QB Landry Jones or WR Quinton Patton 4th round (outside shots WAY OUTSIDE)
C Stephen Warner UD Traded our 7 for Barrett Ruud and released him a short time later.

We have a shortage of players that stand out physically.

mentally also

Rugby Saint II · 11-06-2012, 12:21 PM

Winning on Monday night football could catapult us back onto a winning streak. If we were to lose the next few games then I could see us experimenting with a 3-4.
We run it a little I would like to see it more than we see it now. Hicks might do fine at NT with a little more experience.
Experience. That is what our back ups need. Film. That is what our coaches need on our back up players. We need to be able to better evaluate our depth at the end of the season.
In other words I'm for working towards draft picks if it is absolutely necessary. We're not there yet.

Jamessr · 11-06-2012, 12:53 PM

2 years ago 10-6 won the Super Bowl
1 year ago 9-7 won the Super Bowl

So why are we throwing away the season?

Beastmode · 11-06-2012, 12:54 PM

Excellent point Rugby. Can't evaluate players playing for picks and the draft is a poor evaluation of player potential. I'd say it's the worst farming system in sports because every year great players come out of nowhere from small schools.

AdamRiggs · 11-06-2012, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

2 years ago 10-6 won the Super Bowl
1 year ago 9-7 won the Super Bowl

So why are we throwing away the season?

This. All it takes is for a team to get hit at the right time. Get in and see what happens.

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11-06-2012, 10:49 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by lee909 Just asking the question Are we in a position to make the playoffs or is it time to try and put the less experienced players like Hicks into the starting line up to get them used to the system that will be used. I have only seen bits of the last couple of games due to kick off times and work. You play your starters until someone proves themselves to be a starter through substitution. Always have your best on the field

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Playoffs or damaging draft pick Losing on purpose to gain a highly touted pick(s), I can't think of one sound argument to persuade me it's a smart move. Every player is trying to increase their value (or should be) win or lose. This creates opportunities not only for them, but also the team. Increased trade value, increased interest from FA's, increased interests for staff wanting to get to the next level.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Playoffs or damaging draft pick Originally Posted by jcp026 OG Blaize Foltz 6th round "Freak List" DE Margus Hunt 3rd round "Freak List" LB Jarvis Jones 1st round TE Joseph Fauria 5th round QB Landry Jones or WR Quinton Patton 4th round (outside shots WAY OUTSIDE) C Stephen Warner UD Traded our 7 for Barrett Ruud and released him a short time later. We have a shortage of players that stand out physically. mentally also

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	Re: Playoffs or damaging draft pick Winning on Monday night football could catapult us back onto a winning streak. If we were to lose the next few games then I could see us experimenting with a 3-4. We run it a little I would like to see it more than we see it now. Hicks might do fine at NT with a little more experience. Experience. That is what our back ups need. Film. That is what our coaches need on our back up players. We need to be able to better evaluate our depth at the end of the season. In other words I'm for working towards draft picks if it is absolutely necessary. We're not there yet. Beastmode likes this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Playoffs or damaging draft pick Excellent point Rugby. Can't evaluate players playing for picks and the draft is a poor evaluation of player potential. I'd say it's the worst farming system in sports because every year great players come out of nowhere from small schools.
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AdamRiggs Rookie Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6	Originally Posted by Jamessr 2 years ago 10-6 won the Super Bowl 1 year ago 9-7 won the Super Bowl So why are we throwing away the season? This. All it takes is for a team to get hit at the right time. Get in and see what happens. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
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