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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Pete decided to change everything for this game and he did. He changed the winning strategy to a losing strategy. I hope he changes it back. I hate change. Alaska...

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Old 11-26-2012, 05:16 PM   #41
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Pete decided to change everything for this game and he did. He changed the winning strategy to a losing strategy.

I hope he changes it back.

I hate change.

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Old 11-26-2012, 05:39 PM   #42
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Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear

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This thread started as a discussion about how people expect us to apologize to Ingram after just a couple of good games.
No it didn't.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:42 PM   #43
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Ivory looked like he was going to catch fire at times last night just to go sit down, I would have rode on his back the entire game then sub Ingram in for a breath or 2. In my opionion we have to many running backs and don't know what to do with them all, now someone can say thats not a bad thing but is it if you can't play them all properly, there are other positions that could definatly be addressed, I'm all for depth but damn!! I would play Sproles very sparingly, look, he's back and we get 60 yds, and when he's not 140 or so, figure it out, it's not working.
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:20 AM   #44
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No it didn't.
Hey danno, read the posts on the first page and see what we were talking about. The article was yet another attempt by a pundit to make us feel like we were wrong and we should start eating crow. Some of us know how to read between the lines when something is constantly being force-fed to us.

Then the DISCUSSION ensued below the article. One about how this crap is getting old. People can discuss whatever they want, and surely there have been other topics raised since then, but that is what myself and a couple other were talking about. Comprende? It's not that big a deal man.

And then you came in, and started your defense of Mark Ingram. It's cool though. I'm sure you'll try again to say I'm wrong about something with a three word sentence. I tried to peacefully end the argument a couple of posts ago, but apparently it was for naught. So here it goes one more time: I disagree with you whole heartedly, and I have more than explained my reasons why, and I think those reasons are legitimate. You see it a different way. There's nothing more to it than that. Moving on.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Simply put Ingram doen't fit the system and therefore he was a bad pick. According to Payton he drafted Ingram because he promised his son that he would. It's right there in his book.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:14 PM   #46
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Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear

Someone needs to tell Ingram to be decisive.
Year two, he is still running up peoples back and stopping his forward momentum.
He won't get a 2nd chance in the NFL to get going again.
Pick a gap, stick your head in it, and drive forward!
Learn how to be happy with 3 or 4 until something breaks for him.
Break it outside if it's all stacked up, but do it quickly.
He still seams to be cutting his big boy teeth.
I hope he gets there sooner rather than later.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:24 PM   #47
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He was given the same chance, and fumbled too much in practice and sucked at pass protection.

But since we're playing the hypothetical Ingram vs Ivory nonsense...

He'd probably have been placed on IR by week 6, have 3 fumbles, and Brees may have suffered a serious injury because of a missed block by Ivory, and we'd probably still be 5-5 heading into this game.
Ever the optimist. Haters just keep on hating.

His body of work extends long before this training camp and he has proven he can play pretty darn well.

To me it's clear that we jumped on an opportunity to get Ingram in the draft so we took it and but now everyone is trying to post rationalize his credibility when the numbers don't merit it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:47 PM   #48
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Ingram, ivory.......blah, blah just personal opinion you ride the hot hand ( ivory ) until his braids fall out. Have Ingram in behind him rest sproles and sell both Ingram, and ivory too the highest bidders for defensive help, and roll with pierre, sproles, cadet, and bring banyard out of rb barn!!!!!
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:17 PM   #49
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Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear

He has not/was not worth the move up to draft him. Period.

The criticism for his production, however, should be shared with the coaches' utilization of his talents as well as those who decided to draft him as high as they did - especially when you consider the needs we had going in the draft that year for an impact player at DL, LB, DB, and OL...

While we needed RB depth, spending a R1 pick, especially the investment and added picks/trade to get him doesn't make since when you had the salary and committment to Brees and the passing game...

It would have made more since to draft Gabe Carimi, OT Wisconsin or Orlando Franklin, OT UMiami, or Stefen Wisniewski, G/C Penn State, or on Defense with either Akeem Ayers, LB UCLA, or Aaron Williams, CB Texas...

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Re: Mark Ingram's role becoming clear

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Someone needs to tell Ingram to be decisive.
Year two, he is still running up peoples back and stopping his forward momentum.
He won't get a 2nd chance in the NFL to get going again.
Pick a gap, stick your head in it, and drive forward!
Learn how to be happy with 3 or 4 until something breaks for him.
Break it outside if it's all stacked up, but do it quickly.
He still seams to be cutting his big boy teeth.
I hope he gets there sooner rather than later.
This offense stunts his growth as much as him just hitting the whole and getting the 2.2 yards per carry. Looks like Alabama backs need 20 touches per to notch good games. We don't have the carries for him to be a successful back, and we are all over the place with the backs we do have.

For me shipping 2 or even three backs wouldn't be out of the question if I could get one or two who I knew would be there healthy when I needed!!!!
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