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westbankdaze 11-25-2012 08:01 PM

Ivory should get the start
 
We've had tons of time to see who is the better back and no play sums it up better than Ingram getting stuffed on the third and short. I was screaming at the TV knowing what the Saints were planning and knowing tha ivory would have gotten that **** done.

At this point I am ready to just trade Ingram away. Ivory just has more mass and can move so much better than Ingram. I just don't get it.

AllSaints 11-25-2012 08:05 PM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
I don't understand why we didn't give him the ball any... HE RUNS WITH EVERYTHING HE HAS !!! EVERY PLAY !!!!!!!! ugh.... they r trying to split carries and share the ball BLAH BLAH !!!! screw that VITT STOP BEING STUPID !!! GAH DANG !!! ... when he got interviewed at halftime she said they would try n give ivory the ball more !!! WTF he should have been getting it all game... dumb....

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 08:06 PM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
Check the stat's from even today's SHAT game:

WOW

Still looking for that fumble report from Ivory5.0.

Alaska

Marlboro Man 11-25-2012 08:07 PM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 459697)
We've had tons of time to see who is the better back and no play sums it up better than Ingram getting stuffed on the third and short. I was screaming at the TV knowing what the Saints were planning and knowing tha ivory would have gotten that **** done.

At this point I am ready to just trade Ingram away. Ivory just has more mass and could move so much better than Ingram. I just don't get it.

The article that said Ingram's role was becoming clear? It is. We're showcasing him for a trade. At least I hope we are. I'd prefer to still have Joique Bell over Ingram.

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2012 08:08 PM

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Ingram middle 0
Ingram middle .5
Ingram middle 0
ingram middle 1.5

Oh, boy, HE'S on FIRE

TheOak 11-26-2012 07:58 AM

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2012 Chris Ivory
Games Played 4
Attempts 33
Yards 191
Ave 5.9
TDs 2
First downs 6
Fumbles 0



2012 Ingram
Games Played 11
Attempts 92
Yards 339
Ave 3.7
TDs 2
First Downs 18
Fumbles 0



2012 P.Thomas
Games Played 11
Attempts 75
Yards 341
Ave 4.5
TDs 1
First Downs 11
Fumbles 0


Chris Ivory Ave 5.8
Adrien Peterson Ave 5.8

There are only 3 RB in the league with over 30 carries that have over 5.8
YPC. Forsett, Spiller, Peerman is 1 carry shy from having 30 carries
NFL Stats: by Player Category


What happened to "play the hot hand"?

NOS2SB 11-26-2012 08:11 AM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
It's Pete's fault.

Danno 11-26-2012 08:14 AM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
Ivory started the 49er game.

TheOak 11-26-2012 08:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 459862)
Ivory started the 49er game.

Started but carried less than Ingram.

TheGambler 11-26-2012 08:24 AM

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I wonder who'll be the first to say "NO !! IT'S THE BLOCKING !!! IVORY IS NOT PLAYING BETTER THAN INGRAM !!!"

lol

TheOak 11-26-2012 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGambler (Post 459869)
I wonder who'll be the first to say "NO !! IT'S THE BLOCKING !!! IVORY IS NOT PLAYING BETTER THAN INGRAM !!!"

lol

Internal bounty? Ivory is offering roasted chickens to the line if he gets more YPC.

Danno 11-26-2012 08:35 AM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 459864)
Started but carried less than Ingram.

Maybe because we had to start throwing more, and Ingram is a better pass protector (according to the coaches) so they used Mark more.

I'd like to see more of Ivory, he's damn sure a violent runner. A poor mans Steven Jackson.

Jamessr 11-26-2012 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 459878)
A poor mans Steven Jackson.


Given a chance he'd be better IMO

Mardigras9 11-26-2012 09:47 AM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
We were playing the #1 run defense in the NFC also. Not sure either would have had a great day with more play time.

SaintsBro 11-26-2012 11:51 AM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
The two pick 6's changed everything. They WERE running the ball, committed to it, including Ivory, up until that point. The drive that led to the Jed Collins TD, featured Ivory on several carries. Then the wheels fell off. But my point is that they were featuring Ivory, just like some of you guys wanted, up until the moment when all heck broke loose.

NOS2SB 11-26-2012 12:30 PM

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Why were we running up the middle so much? Pitch outside to Ivory. Give him a little space.

Shoe. 11-26-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NOS2SB (Post 459986)
Why were we running up the middle so much? Pitch outside to Ivory. Give him a little space.

This.

The Niners have one of the best, if not the best, D-lines in the league. Our O-line is getting mangled and pushed back into Drew's business, opening no running lanes, yet the logic Carmichael chooses is, "Let's run it straight at them. Repeatedly."

Those up-the-middle runs largely haven't been successful for us against much worse defenses, so what confuses me is not only does he try it against these guys, once is has proven to not work, he goes back to it again and expects different results.

Really?!? Pete, what were you thinking? SMH.

TheOak 11-26-2012 01:17 PM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 459878)
Maybe because we had to start throwing more, and Ingram is a better pass protector (according to the coaches) so they used Mark more.

I'd like to see more of Ivory, he's damn sure a violent runner. A poor mans Steven Jackson.

Class warfare

Rugby Saint II 11-26-2012 06:19 PM

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Ivory needs more carries. 'nuff said.

NonieT 11-26-2012 06:38 PM

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[QUOTE=Shoe.;459989]


Those up-the-middle runs largely haven't been successful for us against much worse defenses, so what confuses me is not only does he try it against these guys, once is has proven to not work, he goes back to it again and expects different results.

The definition of insanity.

Marlboro Man 11-26-2012 09:07 PM

Re: Ivory should get the start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 459862)
Ivory started the 49er game.

Yeah and he got what?? 4 freakin carries and Ingram got 10 or more. Ivory got good yardage on almost all of his carries, Ingram did not. Saints coaches need to get their collective heads out their arses so we can win some games. We don't have many more left.


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