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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I agree with the conditioning of the O-line they looked tired and slow, the secondary feet divers don't cut it either....

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Old 11-26-2012, 08:33 AM   #11
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

I agree with the conditioning of the O-line they looked tired and slow, the secondary feet divers don't cut it either.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:44 AM   #12
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

The Saints refuse to run the ball two times in a row. They never run the ball except on first down or the occasional third and one right up the middle. Ivory should be in the game until he raises his hand or is carted off. Thomas is one of the best screen RB's in the NFL and runs as hard as anyone. Ingram is improving but he, like Ivory, needs to be on the field for more than one play at a time. Sproles needs to be limited to kickoffs, punts and spot duty. Having him in the game when the situation called for him to block behind the 4th string RT was ridiculous. I love the guy, but his size is a drawback compared to the other four RB's (including Cadet) on the roster. The other four guys can block much better, are bigger threats in the run game, and can catch at a comparable level.

Brees made a horrible throw to Graham and it changed the game yesterday. It was atleast a 7 point swing, probably 10, and gave the 49ers momentum and hope. The second int was a throw and catch Colston makes 7 out of 10 times. It happens.

Everyone wants to bag on the o-line. They held up well against a superior pass rushing unit until the Saints had no choice but to pass on every play. The 49ers LB's are the best unit I've seen since the dome patrol. That being said, Grubbs and de Le Puente had probably their worst games. Robinson, for a street guy, did a darn good job.

The defense played it's best game yesterday. Lofton, Hawthorne, and Vilma is a good LB crew. Hicks is a beast. Jordan gives 110% every play. I personally would start Jenkins at CB and move Greer to the nickle. I don't know if it's due to injury, father time, or he's just got the most out of his small frame, but Greer is just not the same player he was. Abdul-Quddus seems to have better instincts for the ball at safety than Jenkins and likes hitting people.

The ref's called a game like I'm used to seeing as a Saints fan.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:02 AM   #13
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

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The Saints refuse to run the ball two times in a row. They never run the ball except on first down or the occasional third and one right up the middle. Ivory should be in the game until he raises his hand or is carted off. Thomas is one of the best screen RB's in the NFL and runs as hard as anyone. Ingram is improving but he, like Ivory, needs to be on the field for more than one play at a time. Sproles needs to be limited to kickoffs, punts and spot duty. Having him in the game when the situation called for him to block behind the 4th string RT was ridiculous. I love the guy, but his size is a drawback compared to the other four RB's (including Cadet) on the roster. The other four guys can block much better, are bigger threats in the run game, and can catch at a comparable level.

Brees made a horrible throw to Graham and it changed the game yesterday. It was atleast a 7 point swing, probably 10, and gave the 49ers momentum and hope. The second int was a throw and catch Colston makes 7 out of 10 times. It happens.


Everyone wants to bag on the o-line. They held up well against a superior pass rushing unit until the Saints had no choice but to pass on every play. The 49ers LB's are the best unit I've seen since the dome patrol. That being said, Grubbs and de Le Puente had probably their worst games. Robinson, for a street guy, did a darn good job.

The defense played it's best game yesterday. Lofton, Hawthorne, and Vilma is a good LB crew. Hicks is a beast. Jordan gives 110% every play. I personally would start Jenkins at CB and move Greer to the nickle. I don't know if it's due to injury, father time, or he's just got the most out of his small frame, but Greer is just not the same player he was. Abdul-Quddus seems to have better instincts for the ball at safety than Jenkins and likes hitting people.

The ref's called a game like I'm used to seeing as a Saints fan.
I've said this about Quaddus forever, it shows when he is on the field. He is better than Jenkins, Jenkins is a SS at best but can't tackle.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:12 AM   #14
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

I agree we looked soft compared to the punishing defense we played. There are alot of Saint players on ice after that game, the niners know how to hit. I am pleased with the improvement in the Saint defense overall.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:21 AM   #15
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

Defense did their job for the most part. Our banged up o-line got mauled. What more can you ask of a QB than to throw 3 TD's? One pick 6 was clearly his fault, the other was a fluke and a great play defensively by them. Yes he threw into tough coverage many times but frankly he was under seige non stop and was lucky to get the ball out half the time.

I felt the commitment to the run was not as dedictated as I wanted to see. We had them on the ropes late first half and gave up a monumental game changing play. Have to give some credit to the enemy. They just out played us and we can make all the excuses but bottom line we got beat.
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

Originally Posted by OldMaid View Post
No doubt, he did.

Yes, defense is getting a bit better, but still won't tackle.


Still
The previous couple of games they were tackling..........I guess they were afraid of those big bad 49'ers.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:49 PM   #17
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Re: Licking our Wounds ...

Robinson's play on the O-line was really pretty good for a guy who was on the street last week.

Just goes to show how banged up most of those guys must be by now, when a FA can come in a hold his own against one of the best D-lines in the country. Hopefully he can keep it going against the burds
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:02 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by Saintaintso View Post
I thought it was our moment ... I thought we were going to lay a smacking on the 9'ers so hard and heavy it would charge our campaign for the remainder of the regular and hopefully post season ... But after a good 5 or 6 hours of letting it sink in I still see the same glimmer of light as yesterday and the losses of the Seahawks , Vikings , and Buccaneers back that mathematically.

In review Offensively we outscored San Francisco , minus Drews late half heroics I feel we have an entirely different game on our hands.

And Our defense is certainly getting better , but here is to me why we lost and lose most of our games ...

We have too many RBs active and as a result not one can get into a rhythm ... Our winning % and us running the ball are almost mirror images , quit cutting the careers of these guys short release one or two and let them do their thing.

We are the softest team in Football ... There are some SEC schools that hit harder than we do , that's a pathetic but true comparison.
We need to get in the weight room or something...


We as a result of being soft dive at feet. Do they have no shame in one guy missing a tackle diving for laces and 2nd & forever becomes 1st & 10 on our 20 ?

Say what you will Singletary may not have won with the 49ers but he damn sure taught them how to hit and play with intensity.

But on the bright side we are still in it and we don't face Peyton , Roders or the 49ers anymore so we still have a rope that is tapered thin.

And another way to look at it , We see what the problem is as fans , Imagine the schemes , game planning , personnel changes , and plays Sean Payton is seeing.

This year off for him may just give him that big picture he was missing as a coach , I'm sure he sees what we see and tons more
There ya go thinking again. JK. Anyway, I know whatcha mean.
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