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TheOak 11-26-2012 08:31 AM

Interception #2
 
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Rule 1 for receivers from High School up... If it hits your hands you better catch it.

The ball is out of Colstons hands before he is hit. That black dot on top of the 0 on the 40 is the ball already out of his hands.

He was defenseless but it was not knocked out of his hands.

http://nfl.cpl.delvenetworks.com/pla...2087e7fb61ef62



dizzle88 11-26-2012 08:34 AM

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Was still a dumb decision by brees to throw it there

If colston makes that catch, fantastic but it's still a dumb decision and colston still lands how he did

Two bad decisions by brees gave the 9ers all the momentum

Danno 11-26-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 459873)
Rule 1 for receivers from High School up... If it hits your hands you better catch it.

Thats a myth that Collinsworth (I think) addressed several games back.

Jamessr 11-26-2012 08:48 AM

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It amazes me how people are never willing to fault Drew Brees

alleycat_126 11-26-2012 08:50 AM

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He is at fault for interception #1..... But I agree with Danno Colston should have caught this ball!!!!

Mardigras9 11-26-2012 08:56 AM

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He is at fault for the first.

Danno 11-26-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 459885)
He is at fault for interception #1..... But I agree with Danno Colston should have caught this ball!!!!

I think thats Oak. I don't think he should have caught it. It was too high. It would have been an amazing catch.

Both of those picks were on Drew IMO.

Budsdrinker 11-26-2012 09:00 AM

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Would have been an incredible catch if he caught it but you don't hang your #1 receiver in the middle of the field like that. Colston is lucky to be walking today. With the pressure the 9ers bring, we should have had some roll out plays for Brees and quick throws.

SaintsBro 11-26-2012 10:05 AM

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Well the thing that struck me about it at the time was that, Colston came down and was basically out cold on the turf, giving the Niners an 11 on 10 basketball-style break, going back the other way, with one more player than the Saints had tacklers...that's almost a sure recipe for a pick 6....I think it's quite possible that if Colston hadn't been so badly physically hurt at that moment, he gets up and runs after the guy, and changes the outcome further down the field, with the blocking and the cut move the guy made to get to the end zone and so forth.

TheOak 11-26-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 459882)
Thats a myth that Collinsworth (I think) addressed several games back.

I myself heard it taught.

Did you reply on Collinsworth? :confused:

lumm0x 11-26-2012 10:24 AM

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One pick is 100% Brees. The second pick is no one's fault 100%. It is a tough throw that we make every game and not all defenses react to it the way they did and more than half the time it is a little more on target or Colston makes the grab. That one was part fluke, part better defense than we usually see, and part mental errors by QB and receiver.

Danno 11-26-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 459941)
I myself heard it taught.

Did you reply on Collinsworth? :confused:

Stand 10 yards away from a young John Elway and let him fire a lazer 2 feet over your head that you barely have enough time to get your hands up.

99% of NFL WR's won't catch that.

Its not a truism.

jnormand 11-26-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 459884)
It amazes me how people are never willing to fault Drew Brees

It amazes me how people think that this team would be worth a **** if Brees wasn't at QB. It also amazes me how people actually think he's playing bad this season. He had a bad game. Yeah its on him. I blame him for that but I'm not going to crucify him.

SaintsBro 11-26-2012 11:22 AM

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Bad game? He had two bad plays. Of course that was unfortunately enough. "But the iceberg only hit two of the water tight compartments, that make the ship unsinkable" LOL.

Mardigras9 11-26-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 459964)
It amazes me how people think that this team would be worth a **** if Brees wasn't at QB.

Truer words have never been spoken.

WhoDat!656 11-26-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 459877)
If colston makes that catch, fantastic but it's still a dumb decision and colston still lands how he did

So he might as well catch it; he is going to be hit anyway!

Jamessr 11-26-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 459964)
It amazes me how people think that this team would be worth a **** if Brees wasn't at QB. It also amazes me how people actually think he's playing bad this season. He had a bad game. Yeah its on him. I blame him for that but I'm not going to crucify him.

Please find one time I suggested Fire, remove or even bench Drew Brees in favor of Chase Daniels... You won't find one.

Crucify him? Please...
You people just need to stop getting butt hurt when things are called like it is. You have ZERO issues with calling out other on defense or even our kicker but GOD FORBID the hifghest paid player in NFL history gets called out for stupid plays...

Jamessr 11-26-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 459974)
So he might as well catch it; he is going to be hit anyway!


if I had a choice at catching the ball or using my arms to break a fall so I could walk again I'd choose to break my fall.

|Mitch| 11-26-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 459979)
if I had a choice at catching the ball or using my arms to break a fall so I could walk again I'd choose to break my fall.

Colston did neither, when he jumped to catch the ball; he had no idea that he would be up-ended...

SaintsBro 11-26-2012 12:29 PM

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Well Vilma last night said the same EXACT thing that I said, a few weeks ago in the "Is Brees Turning Into Brett Favre?" thread, about the pick 6 in the Carolina game...we've all seen Drew make those bone-headed decisions and throw that exact same pick 6 or bad interception before...(my memory is hazy, but I think in the case of the first one last night, to #55, it felt almost identical to one of the crazy ones he threw in that awful Cleveland game, when he had that rough patch -- I felt a little twinge of deja vu about it somehow). But what we haven't seen is Drew throw two of them almost back-to-back, like that, within a couple of plays of each other. Usually he dusts himself off and gets right back in it, the team comes back from the adversity, but last night, unfortunately, after the second one, it felt like Drew was sorta toast.

As for the "if it hits your hands you should catch it" thing -- I think that is something that the pros just sort of say, as a professional pride thing...the same way that professional session musicians, Nashville session cats and Broadway pit musicians and so forth, they are proud of the fact that they can play anything, any time, anywhere -- you can put any piece of music in front of them and they will CUT THE RECORD, perfect, every time, as many takes as you would like, just count it in and they'll play it exactly how you want it. But it's not actually how it really happens. They do screw up and play clams or break guitar strings and stuff. But it's something they say, to sort of distance themselves from the "non-pro" musicians -- and I think it's the same thing happening with football players as well.

Papa Voodoo 11-26-2012 02:51 PM

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We are all so used to seeing Brees play at such a high level that we sometimes forget he's a human too. Favre and Brees are two of the best QBs in history. I'd take either one. The worst I ever saw Drew play was against the Ravens about 4 years ago (Jason David era).

Jamessr 11-26-2012 04:08 PM

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Comparing Drew to Brett was never saying he was bad. Brett Farve never knew when to kill the play and play again the next down... always trying to force it and make something happen.
Is Drew Brees the best Saint to ever wear a uniform? I believe so
Does he have too much on his plate at times? I believe so.
Doers he not know when to kill a play and come back again(at times) I believe so

papz 11-26-2012 04:28 PM

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Is was a bad throw period. Whether or not it was catch-able is absolutely moot to me. I'm glad Colston is still walking.

Rugby Saint II 11-27-2012 12:02 PM

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Colston is not only lucky to be walking.............he's lucky he's not crippled. He could have easily broken his neck.

Boutte 11-27-2012 06:41 PM

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The pass wasn't that bad, it was high but Colston should have caught it. But ie had he might have been seriously hurt. But he definitely "heard footsteps".
http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-S...intColston.gif

Boutte 11-27-2012 07:04 PM

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This hit might be legal but it shouldn't be. It's probably the single most dangerous play in football.
http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-S...%20colston.gif

Shoe. 11-27-2012 07:05 PM

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A bad throw that could have been caught

A throw that Drew normally hits and Marques normally catches

Either way I'm glad he's healthy for thursday night, that was a nasty fall

Danno 11-28-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 460399)
The pass wasn't that bad, it was high but Colston should have caught it. But ie had he might have been seriously hurt. But he definitely "heard footsteps".
http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-S...intColston.gif

That would have easily been the catch of the year if he'd caught that.

I don't think there's a WR in the league that would have caught that.

xan 11-28-2012 08:41 AM

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he's made tougher catches. he short-armed it, you can tell he was looking away from the ball before it hit his hands.

Still a "buddy pass" if I've ever seen one. Maybe Drew was pissed that Colston's new contract kept him from getting 21 million a year.

Danno 11-28-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 460515)
he's made tougher catches.

I've never seen it.

Jamessr 11-28-2012 09:14 AM

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I can't even begin to blame Colston for not making that catch....
The fact he knew he was going to get hit, while be 4 feet in the air has somethng to do with it.
Bad placement on the ball... The interception just bad luck and bad timing.

xan 11-28-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 460516)
I've never seen it.

You have to watch video, not gamecast. text alerts don't usually capture how athletic Colston is.

But seriously, there are like 20 websites devoted to video of him catching balls across the middle and taking huge hits simultaneously. Brees likes to throw the ball high, so most of Colston's receptions are usually helmet level and above. He can't have much sinovial fluid left in his joints from the pounding.

TheOak 11-28-2012 09:41 AM

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Correct Xan,

Brees knows how much air Colston can get which is why he is throwing the ball for gazelle catches.

Brees knows that Jimmy can out manhandle any defenders which is why he not affraid to squeeze the ball to him when he is tripple teamed.

While his throws like that one look stupid, he actually throws to his receivers abilities, while most QBs throw to a target not taking any of that into account.

Budsdrinker 11-28-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 460411)
This hit might be legal but it shouldn't be. It's probably the single most dangerous play in football.
http://boutte.smugmug.com/Other/My-S...%20colston.gif

Look how wide open Sproles is. It goes back to Drew wanting to force everything down field instead of taking what's there.

TheOak 11-28-2012 10:02 AM

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That throw was not out of the ordinary from Brees to Colston.
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CharityMike 11-28-2012 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 460532)
Look how wide open Sproles is. It goes back to Drew wanting to force everything down field instead of taking what's there.

I would agree. I always find myself wondering when he throws the ball to a receiver with 3 -4 defenders around him, there was no one else open?? Thanks to that clip, I finally got an answer. How far you think Sproles would have got with how open he was?

Halo 11-28-2012 11:07 AM

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Hate to say it, acrobatic or not, Colston dropped the ball. End of story.
Most of the time Colston makes that grab and everyone praises the team for athletic play.
Those "risky" throws make our team potent. We never go back and observe the plays we score on or chug 20 yards down the field on a completion. That's how it works.

SaintsBro 11-28-2012 11:10 AM

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Dang. You can see Sproles even kind of flinches and sticks his hands out, like he thinks the ball is coming to him -- he knows how wide open he is.

Kryptonite 11-28-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 460532)
Look how wide open Sproles is. It goes back to Drew wanting to force everything down field instead of taking what's there.


I was thinking the exact same thing when I watched the rewind on NFL channel

SapperSaint 11-28-2012 12:16 PM

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Missed catch or not; that was a dirty hit.


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