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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I submit for your approval: Game #1 Season opener vs. Redskins: (LOSS) 12 series 5 x 3-outs, totalling -43 yards (no positive yards in those series) 1 x 1 play interception that resulted in a td (oob at saints 3) ...

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:15 PM   #1
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Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

I submit for your approval:

Game #1 Season opener vs. Redskins: (LOSS)
12 series
5 x 3-outs, totalling -43 yards (no positive yards in those series)
1 x 1 play interception that resulted in a td (oob at saints 3)
2 other series ending in turnovers, one fumble, one interception

1 second half td

Game #2 @ Carolina (LOSS)
13 series
2 x 3-outs, totalling 12 yards
2 x 1 play interceptions, 1 pick6, the other EOG
1 turnover on downs

2 second half tds, both after down 15

Game #3 Kansas City (LOSS)
14 series
3 x 3-outs totalling -3 yards
2 x 4-outs totalling 7 yards
1 x 2 play ending in safety
1 x 5 play interception resulting in fg

2 second half tds starting in KC red zone
no 4th quarter points (-18 yards gained), no yards gained in OT


Game #4 @ Green Bay (LOSS)
13 series
1 3-out first series, 9 yards
3 punts, 1 missed fg
1st and goal from 3 FG

1 second half td, 2 fgs one missed fg (too much time left anyway)

Game # 5 San Diego (WIN)
11 series
2 x 3-out, -3 yards total
4 punts
1 3 play interception resulting in TD

17 points from last 3 drives to win game

Game #6 @Tampa Bay (WIN)
10 series

1st series int for 1 play score
3 x 3-out, 19 yards total

1 second half td

Game #7 @ Denver (LOSS)
11 series
5 x 3-out, 15 yards total
1 int resulting in TD

1 second half TD in garbage time (9 minutes of possession in 2nd half)

Game #8 vs Philadelphia (WIN)
8 series
3/4/5-out punts, 36 yards total
1 Brees fumble resulting in score

1 2nd half TD, no 4th quarter scoring

Game #9 vs Atlanta (WIN)
11 series
3 x 3-out, 8 total yards
4 second half punts
1 1play int in NO redzone held to fg

10 second half points, 3 points in last 4 drives

Game #10 @ Oakland (WIN)
10 series
3 x 3-outs, 17 total yards
4 punts

17 second half points, 3 4th quarter points

Game #11 vs San Francisco (LOSS)
11 series
3 x 3-outs, 18 yards total
4 punts
2 pick 6's
2 turnovers on downs

7 points in second half, 0 in 4th quarter 14 yards on meaningful 2nd half drives

Season takeaway:

124 series
29 x 3-outs 58 total yards
50 punts (we had 46 punts in all 16 games last season)
11 interceptions (3 pick6)
2 fumbles lost (1 touchback)
3 series ended in downs
1 safety
3 missed FGs
67 total non-scoring drives
308 points
133 second half points, 62 points in second half in losses, 49 points scored when down by >14, all losses.

Same offense as last year, as year before, and year before, minus one guard and one head coach, but same OC, OLC, RBC QBC.


I'm not saying, I'm just saying. 11 games into the season, it's not about Sean Payton.

Guess what? We're 20+ million over the cap next year. We're going to lose a LOT of key personnel. This is going to be as good as it gets for a while!

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

Originally Posted by xan View Post
Guess what? We're 20+ million over the cap next year. We're going to lose a LOT of key personnel. This is going to be as good as it gets for a while!
I hear it every year and Loomis bytchslaps it back in all the doomsayers faces.

He can make up 20 million by cutting or restructuring 3 or 4 players.

Its a non-issue.
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I hear it every year and Loomis bytchslaps it back in all the doomsayers faces.

He can make up 20 million by cutting or restructuring 3 or 4 players.

Its a non-issue.
I sure hope not.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:32 PM   #4
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

Not jumping on any bandwagon, but Brees was the single biggest reason why the Saints lost to the 49ers this Sunday, IMO.

Especially that Brooks pick 6 was just unforgivable, without it, the Saints would've gone into the halftime with a TD lead and with the momentum on their side.

Still, as angry as I was with some of Brees' decision-making in that game and with the mistakes that followed... his positives far outweigh his negatives, even with his price-tag.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:45 PM   #5
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

If us losing all these games is Brees fault well gah we should just cut him .... Maybe dallas will cut romo and we can get a real leader at QB man hope that works ! BLLAHHHHHH !!!!!! Yes the game yesterday Those pick 6 killed us.... but gah blaming all these games we lose on brees is idiotic !
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

When your defense holds the opponent to under 20 and you lose then you start to look to blame something other than the defense.

You're going to find a handful of games where you can squarely blame Drew Brees for the loss - a light handful.

We have become SO spoiled here. The ONLY player I'd even consider swapping for Brees is Brady, and I don't think I'd make that swap either.
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

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If us losing all these games is Brees fault well gah we should just cut him .... Maybe dallas will cut romo and we can get a real leader at QB man hope that works ! BLLAHHHHHH !!!!!! Yes the game yesterday Those pick 6 killed us.... but gah blaming all these games we lose on brees is idiotic !
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

I said he tend to be like farve at times... but noway am I jumping on the 100% Blame Drew Brees bandwagon. Saints would be bottom feeders without him, that being said I wouldn't trade him for any other QB past or present.
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

Not to be insulting but I think anyone who doesn't realize that the only reason this game even mattered is pretty much because of Brees in the first place is simple minded.

What do you think our record would be if Cam Newton was our QB? Or Josh Freeman? Or Mattyboy?

We lost a game to one of the best teams in the league and possibly THE best defense. Brees made a bad decision on one play and was off target on another and now every other post is about how Brees is the problem and he's a selfish player who is going to cost us our future.

What a bunch of whiny ingrates! Without Brees we'd be lucky to have two wins. Even great QBs have bad games.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:50 PM   #10
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Re: Jump on the Brees' fault bandwagon

I was just thinking about all the speculation about SP leaving for Dallas and I look at this Saints team. Terrible defense in need of major overhaul (Not SP's Specialty). Offensive line beginning to crumble and laden with over paid players. Looking at losing a lot of players on defense and a few on offense next year. That's not a very tempting outlook to draw SP back to NO. He'll have just as much and maybe a little more talent in Dallas and only needs to get a QB and a couple players to jump right back into the playoffs and be sucessful with a second team. I'm starting to get nervous about this situation. If SP doesn't want to coach more than another 5 years, Dallas just may be his best bet to get back to winning again. Our team is starting to look like a team in decline.
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