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saintsfan403 12-06-2012 06:08 PM

Sarcastaball becoming a reality?
 
Roger Goodell mulls idea of eliminating NFL kickoffs - NFL.com
Is this a joke? I need some second opinions...
sorry if this is a repost, I tried to find another thread on the topic, but to no avail.

TheOak 12-06-2012 06:12 PM

It's no joke. In 2015 they are going to make running illegal.

TheKillerBs 12-06-2012 06:25 PM

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The only thing I like about this concept? It's easier to convert a 4th and 15 than an onside kick.

Beastmode 12-06-2012 06:37 PM

Re: Sarcastaball becoming a reality?
 
The players have become too strong and too fast for their own good. There really is no way around it. The game will continue to evolve, just like when they implemented the forward pass. I totally exspect to see a non tackling game before it's all over with.

WhoDat!656 12-06-2012 06:40 PM

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arsaint 12-06-2012 07:12 PM

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I think it is a GREAT idea - right after we do away with allowing judge & jury NFL Commissioners.

saintfan 12-06-2012 07:13 PM

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Well this is just GREAT I tell you. THIS is going to make the game SO MUCH safer...

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Utah_Saint 12-06-2012 07:37 PM

Re: Sarcastaball becoming a reality?
 
NFL - Takin the foot outta football since 2012.

OldMaid 12-06-2012 07:53 PM

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I understand about evloing Beast.
I get wat you are saying, but this is weird.

Just make NFL football, flag football then. Be done with with.
Safety is important. Head to head butts should be out of the game.

This though...NFL- No Football League..

saintsfan403 12-06-2012 08:01 PM

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Ugh.

AllSaints 12-06-2012 09:05 PM

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That's ridiculous ..... Somebody needs to get this guy outta there... take him out ! and Obama maybe they can line up perfect behind each other... kill 2 birds with one stone ! ! !

lumm0x 12-06-2012 09:09 PM

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Adding extra Thursday short week games and wanting to expand to an 18 game schedule is fine for safety but they want to change to this stupidity? Completely changes the "integrity" of the game that idiot so proudly spouts about retaining.

lynwood 12-06-2012 09:31 PM

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In a couple more years this game will be unwatchable. It's the wussification of Men and America making it's way to the football field. The whiney pansies won't be happy until Soccer is our national pastime. If you want to play football sign a waiver and be done with it.

B_Dub_Saint 12-06-2012 09:59 PM

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I really hate this guy!

RaginCajun83 12-06-2012 10:35 PM

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Why don't they just make them all wear dresses and have them play with a balloon while only being able to give the opposing team hugs and compliments

The owners need to wake up and get this douche bag, control freak, communist out of office ASAP

saintsfan403 12-06-2012 10:55 PM

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Dibs marketing a sports drink that makes you feel all ooey gooey on the inside

FinSaint 12-06-2012 11:16 PM

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Oh, and don't forget about the foil hats! ;-)

The sports drink will probably be supplied by uncle Roger himself...

QBREES9 12-06-2012 11:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 463310)
I really hate this guy!


Same here.

dizzle88 12-07-2012 03:45 AM

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Football will be two hand touch when ol' rog is done with it

SaintsBro 12-07-2012 06:34 AM

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Goodell complains that HDTV and hi def, is doing harm to the idea of people wanting to go to the actual games

Then he wants to take away one of the best opportunities for fans to stand up, get out your seat and make a little noise, yell your head off with all your fellow fans in the 60-70,000 seats around you. The one moment where cheap seats and 50-yard line luxury seats are equalized and all the same.

The one thing you can't do at home in front of a big screen?

Does not compute

The guy is clueless!

Joker 12-07-2012 07:47 AM

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The competetion committee still has to vote on it, he can propose change all he wants. This can't happen without a vote, plain and simple.
I herd this morning this may pave the way for adding 2 more regular season games due to being able to eliminate players on special teams and add depth to the offense and defensive side of the ball.
This is an attempt to make more revenue for the owners and NFL not player safety IMO, don't forget Roger is there to protect the owners not the players or the fans.

Danno 12-07-2012 08:13 AM

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Schiano get an A for thinking outside the box.

The NFL is terrified of lawsuits and we all should be just as scared. Lawsuits will be the bullet that destroys the NFL as we know it, hell its already starting.

If the option is litigation destroying my NFL versus a few silly rule changes in order to keep it similar to the game we currently love I'm OK with it.

Yes Goodell is a villain, but this idea isn't as bad as I originally thought considering the intent and possible consequences of ignoring the oncoming wave of costly lawsuits.

vpheughan 12-07-2012 08:14 AM

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He has to give the appearance that the NFL is "concerned" with the safety of the player. This is in advance of all the upcoming lawsuits. A smoke screen is all it is. Dress all the players in those "Sumo" suits and let them play!!! That would be fun to watch and no one gets hurt!!! I knew I'd kept my Tudor Electric Football game for a reason!!!

UK_WhoDat 12-07-2012 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 463283)
....Just make NFL football, flag football then. Be done with with.....

Commentator: There's a flag on the play. Oh wait!
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 463265)
It's no joke. In 2015 they are going to make running illegal.

With slight apologises to Zager and Evans

In the year 2015
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do

Beastmode 12-07-2012 10:48 AM

Re: Sarcastaball becoming a reality?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 463358)
The competetion committee still has to vote on it, he can propose change all he wants. This can't happen without a vote, plain and simple.
I herd this morning this may pave the way for adding 2 more regular season games due to being able to eliminate players on special teams and add depth to the offense and defensive side of the ball.
This is an attempt to make more revenue for the owners and NFL not player safety IMO, don't forget Roger is there to protect the owners not the players or the fans.

Roger was tasked to extend the regular season from day one. He made a big push early on and failed. HE FAILED. In fact, he has failed at everything. . If I were an owner I would be livid with him. He has brought more negative PR to the NFL in one year than all the other commissioners combined.

And it's not the owners, it's him! It's him because he does exactly what the owners tell him to do instead of telling them what they need to hear. There are other options to create more revenue besides games. Make the bye week a fan day at the home stadiium, a pep ralley of sorts, a real event with paying customers meeting and greeting their team. Make the pro bowl a skills based event that last two days with videos of the players mixed in. Almost 0 threat of injuries, you make additional revenue, and the fans get more involved.

Rugby Saint II 12-07-2012 11:29 AM

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You know what? Our football players would be able to play longer if they played soccer. Godhell may be onto something here. :roll:

saintsfan403 12-07-2012 07:37 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if he replaced kickoffs with no-contact games of jack pot.

NOLA54 12-07-2012 09:52 PM

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I think we need to do away with Goodell instead of kickoffs.

CharityMike 12-08-2012 07:52 AM

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I think a much easier solution would be to just get rid of the extra point! You score a TD you have a choice to take 7pts or go for 2pt conversion and get 8. Jason Cole had an excellent article on this subject.

SaintsBro 12-08-2012 08:51 AM

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Treated realistically, this scenario would even further arena-ize the game ,changing it in ridiculous ways that I don't think these people have thought through.

The rule would be encouraging good offenses with fast paced,high powered passing attacks to GO FOR IT every time, or more often than they do an onside kick....leading to more scores going the other way when they fail; thus encouraging quicker scoring, more "bombs-away" down-the-field playing and more passing, more teams playing from behind for more of the game.

The ideal team under this rule, would be a passing team with an elite QB like the Patriots/Saints/Broncos, that is able to come back from a two-TD lead or score TD's quickly....you could go for it early in the game, when up by 7 points against a weak defense, and you get it, score, and you put the nail in the coffin -- up by 14, the game is now essentially "garbage football" in the 2nd quarter. I'm not sure that's a three-hour game that people want to see. Bad teams would become worse and elite teams and QBs would pull away from the pack and dominate the sport, affecting parity.

Ray Rice's 4th and 29 showed how possible it is....the problem with this scenario is that the more arena-like the game becomes, the worse it gets that way, it creates a death spiral...eventually it will be like basketball, with no defense at all, and scores like 77-70 and 103-65 will be commonplace.


It would also eventually change the punter position, from thin fragile guys to more robust, QB type players with more of an arm and/or able to run, so teams *could* fake it once in a while without changing personell. If I had a good defense I'd draft a college QB and teach him to punt, trade off some yards he is able to kick downfield for the ability to line up and run the fake at will...now the rules about substituting quarterbacks will need to be changed, rules about roughing the kicker or roughing the passer will be affected, these 4th and 15s will often be decided by various dubious penalties and officiating, especially cheap pass interference calls, was the ball catchable, was it tipped, etc.


Because if one team is up by 7 and goes for it early in the game and gets it, then scores, they go up by 14, forcing the other team to start going for it. Which leads to more short fields and faster scoring...the game we know will turn into a monster we can barely recognize....

LivnaLieTimay 12-09-2012 06:40 PM

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After today's game I'm starting to think this may not be a bad idea...

9thWardDesire 12-09-2012 08:57 PM

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XFL had done it and look how long they lasted.

Eliminating kickoffs is like taking the "FOOT" out of football. It's bad enough the Euros are calling it "HAND-EGG". NHL was already taken....

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