Should we draft Johnny Football ...

Budsdrinker · 12-10-2012, 08:27 AM

I still say Brees' replacement is in high school right now. Too early for this conversation.

skymike · 12-10-2012, 08:39 AM

Oh, I dont know if any thread is moot or pointless. You have to admit its an interesting thought, or in the words of Pee Wee Hermann, "Made you look."

Originally Posted by foreverfan

The last thing we need is a player who is going to sit on the bench for 2 seasons before starting. Much less for Drew Brees.

The Mark Ingram trade we don't have a player on the field full time. Instead we have a part time player. We cannot afford to do this at this time in Drew Brees's career.

What we need is a full time starter and a difference maker. Since we seem to get a lot of our offense players very quickly..

nice. scary stuff, when you do serious talk. agree 100%.

But no, I dont want a Vince Young/ Cam Newton/ Steve Young running quarterback. RGIII found out yesterday that he's in the NFL. (channeling Jerry Glanville) "You're not at a homecoming, son. You're not playing Vanderbilt. This is the NFL, which stands for "N.ot F.or L.ong," when you run around like you're in college. You'll be selling groceries."

I want a great, accurate, smart passer, who doesnt have to have the biggest arm, but an NFL caliber one, doesnt have to be a great runner, just makes smart moves to avoid pressure, and doesnt have to be big at all, just durable, and able to plow ahead, when necessary. He needs to be a leader.

A QB's most important tools are: #2, his arm, #1 his mind.

WillSaints81 · 12-11-2012, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

You ready to ditch Chase Daniel for this kid?

Tbh, I was all for Chase in 2008 to be something special. But Missouri was just not a good test for him as that school has just not been able to match up with elite competition in Big 12 football. And when you see Gabbert, who basically duplicated what Daniel did the following two years with minimal drop off not to mention he didnt have Maclin to throw to you do have to question if Daniel will be able to fill the shoes. I want Daniel to succeed but idk if he can in New Orleans.

NOS2SB · 12-11-2012, 06:25 AM

No. We don't need a QB.

Saint_LB · 12-11-2012, 08:14 AM

What works in college doesn't necessarily work in the Bigs. Ask Tim Tebow...or that guy, White I think was his last name...QB from Oklahoma that won the Heisman but didn't sniff the NFL.

Even if he does succeed for a while by scrambling and standing on his tip-toes to see downfield like Drew...like everybody else said...he won't last for long. He will go get in line at the Dr.'s office with Vick and RGIII, etc.

Speaking of Tebow, though...and I don't intend to hi-jack...just reminded me of something I was thinking about the other day...

Why does everybody say, "You can't change your offense to suit one guy", when referring to Tebow, but nobody has peeped about the pro version of Southern Cal with their triple option over there in D.C...

SapperSaint · 12-11-2012, 10:32 AM

The folowing two words never mix well for our team.

1.) Heisman

2.) 1st round pick

Oil and water come to mind.

WillSaints81 · 12-11-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

What works in college doesn't necessarily work in the Bigs. Ask Tim Tebow...or that guy, White I think was his last name...QB from Oklahoma that won the Heisman but didn't sniff the NFL.

Even if he does succeed for a while by scrambling and standing on his tip-toes to see downfield like Drew...like everybody else said...he won't last for long. He will go get in line at the Dr.'s office with Vick and RGIII, etc.

Speaking of Tebow, though...and I don't intend to hi-jack...just reminded me of something I was thinking about the other day...

Why does everybody say, "You can't change your offense to suit one guy", when referring to Tebow, but nobody has peeped about the pro version of Southern Cal with their triple option over there in D.C...

Sam Bradford is still playing in the NFL and is leading the rams to a possible .500 season or one that will match his rookie season. If thats the Oklahoma qb you are talking about. So far, all of the heisman winners still are starting or have a chance to start. Ingram is the latest bust. Tebow isnt a bust, but he's not the elite type qb but he doesnt have to be when he has that jets defense. Seeing how he was able to rack up wins last year I think he can be a qb that wins games. The jets need him to start right now but Rex Ryan has high expectations that passed after two years almost reaching the sb. Cam is still playing and has had a up and down season. Luck will be even better in years to come. Pat White didnt win a heisman and played for West Virginia.

WillSaints81 · 12-11-2012, 06:30 PM

I have heard that high schools and colleges are perfecting the NFL pass offense today. Idk how long this has been going on but it makes sense with how these rookie qbs are impacting their teams right away. I think the SEC imo if there's a passing qb in that conference that wins game then he's gonna be good in the pros. Matt Stafford is one of them. Any qb that throws for 5,000 yards in a season has to be on the right path. He didnt do well right away he learned the old fashioned way where he had gotten hurt and sat on the bench and watched the plays on the sideline. He is better than Matt Ryan lets just say that. His UGA replacement, Aaron Murray is someone to watch out for. Out of this years's upcoming qb class to me is the best of them.

saintsfan1976 · 12-11-2012, 06:36 PM

Our next QB is playing in the NFL right now.

WillSaints81 · 12-12-2012, 04:19 AM

Idk who that qb is?

12-10-2012, 08:27 AM	#21
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12-10-2012, 08:39 AM	#22
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Should we draft Johnny Football ... Oh, I dont know if any thread is moot or pointless. You have to admit its an interesting thought, or in the words of Pee Wee Hermann, "Made you look." Originally Posted by foreverfan The last thing we need is a player who is going to sit on the bench for 2 seasons before starting. Much less for Drew Brees. The Mark Ingram trade we don't have a player on the field full time. Instead we have a part time player. We cannot afford to do this at this time in Drew Brees's career. What we need is a full time starter and a difference maker. Since we seem to get a lot of our offense players very quickly.. nice. scary stuff, when you do serious talk. agree 100%. But no, I dont want a Vince Young/ Cam Newton/ Steve Young running quarterback. RGIII found out yesterday that he's in the NFL. (channeling Jerry Glanville) "You're not at a homecoming, son. You're not playing Vanderbilt. This is the NFL, which stands for "N.ot F.or L.ong," when you run around like you're in college. You'll be selling groceries." I want a great, accurate, smart passer, who doesnt have to have the biggest arm, but an NFL caliber one, doesnt have to be a great runner, just makes smart moves to avoid pressure, and doesnt have to be big at all, just durable, and able to plow ahead, when necessary. He needs to be a leader. A QB's most important tools are: #2, his arm, #1 his mind. SapperSaint, foreverfan, Budsdrinker and 2 others like this.

12-11-2012, 06:07 AM	#23
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Should we draft Johnny Football ... Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 You ready to ditch Chase Daniel for this kid? Tbh, I was all for Chase in 2008 to be something special. But Missouri was just not a good test for him as that school has just not been able to match up with elite competition in Big 12 football. And when you see Gabbert, who basically duplicated what Daniel did the following two years with minimal drop off not to mention he didnt have Maclin to throw to you do have to question if Daniel will be able to fill the shoes. I want Daniel to succeed but idk if he can in New Orleans.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Should we draft Johnny Football ... Originally Posted by Saint_LB What works in college doesn't necessarily work in the Bigs. Ask Tim Tebow...or that guy, White I think was his last name...QB from Oklahoma that won the Heisman but didn't sniff the NFL. Even if he does succeed for a while by scrambling and standing on his tip-toes to see downfield like Drew...like everybody else said...he won't last for long. He will go get in line at the Dr.'s office with Vick and RGIII, etc. Speaking of Tebow, though...and I don't intend to hi-jack...just reminded me of something I was thinking about the other day... Why does everybody say, "You can't change your offense to suit one guy", when referring to Tebow, but nobody has peeped about the pro version of Southern Cal with their triple option over there in D.C... Sam Bradford is still playing in the NFL and is leading the rams to a possible .500 season or one that will match his rookie season. If thats the Oklahoma qb you are talking about. So far, all of the heisman winners still are starting or have a chance to start. Ingram is the latest bust. Tebow isnt a bust, but he's not the elite type qb but he doesnt have to be when he has that jets defense. Seeing how he was able to rack up wins last year I think he can be a qb that wins games. The jets need him to start right now but Rex Ryan has high expectations that passed after two years almost reaching the sb. Cam is still playing and has had a up and down season. Luck will be even better in years to come. Pat White didnt win a heisman and played for West Virginia.

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