Jabari Greer, Brees and others

QBREES9 · 12-10-2012, 12:50 PM

Nothing wrong with Drew's arm, now his decision making. Just a bad year. The cards were stacked against us.

BusDriver · 12-10-2012, 12:51 PM

I get it that the blame is on them, I'm sure he puts it on himself, just as the others do themselves too. However to say every pick is the qb's fault, is like saying every incomplete pass is. I'm pretty sure I've seen these receivers, backs, and TE's drop balls this season. Sounds funny (tight ends drop balls).

AlaskaSaints · 12-10-2012, 01:08 PM

There will be 6 NFC teams in the playoffs who don't have 100-million-dollar QB's.

Just sayin'.

Drew has the curse.

Alaska

alleycat_126 · 12-11-2012, 01:00 AM

That is a bunch of Hogwash^^^^ the curse, seriously. If Drew Brees could toss that B**tch to himself you know he would. He would give himself way more time cause he would keep Aldon Smith and Justin Smith off him at the same time cause he would be blocking for himself. I bet you Gd well he would catch it too, and not fumble. The man can't catch his own passes. The people who are out there not pass catching, not blocking well, and fumbling after catching, or just dropping wide open passes are just as much to blame as Brees. And they are not making the same kinda scratch, but they are making significant scratch. Your paying Pierre a big contract to be in a backup role, Lance Moore the same, Colston is making number one receiver money and can't hold onto the ball in big game situations, Jimmy is about to get broke off any day now...... It's not just brees and his money ( WHICH HE DESERVED FOR CARRYING THIS FRANCHISE OUT OF THE ASHES IT WAS IN)

It only hurts as much as it does because you expect better...... hell so do I...
But who set that standard? The hundred million dollar man!!!

CharityMike · 12-11-2012, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

That is a bunch of Hogwash^^^^ the curse, seriously. If Drew Brees could toss that B**tch to himself you know he would. He would give himself way more time cause he would keep Aldon Smith and Justin Smith off him at the same time cause he would be blocking for himself. I bet you Gd well he would catch it too, and not fumble. The man can't catch his own passes. The people who are out there not pass catching, not blocking well, and fumbling after catching, or just dropping wide open passes are just as much to blame as Brees. And they are not making the same kinda scratch, but they are making significant scratch. Your paying Pierre a big contract to be in a backup role, Lance Moore the same, Colston is making number one receiver money and can't hold onto the ball in big game situations, Jimmy is about to get broke off any day now...... It's not just brees and his money ( WHICH HE DESERVED FOR CARRYING THIS FRANCHISE OUT OF THE ASHES IT WAS IN)

It only hurts as much as it does because you expect better...... hell so do I...
But who set that standard? The hundred million dollar man!!!

Makes sense when you think about how many pass's he threw to JG last year. This year JG leads the NFL in dropped pass's. Has god only knows how many bounce off his hands. Receivers fumbling the ball. Check downs being dropped constantly. O-line playing mediocre most of the time. NO ONE is stepping up on offense. The defense is finally starting to get there act together and the offense is in total shambles. The play calling has been crap all year. There is a reason Vitt has been an asst. coach for 30+ years, he is not head coaching material. Carmichael has shown this year that he really has not been the one calling the plays these last 6 years. Makes you wonder why he is even on staff. The list of problems go on and on. Drew has NO confidence right now and he don't have his mentor to straighten him out, so I don't see him getting out of this funk until the season is over.

As far as Greer is concerned, Ashley NAILED it! I said the exact same thing watching the game. He is looking like Jason David right now. He looks absolutely lost. He made a joke after that ATL game we won, that he would have been on the waiver wire had he not swatted that pass in the endzone away. I can't help but think he should be on the waiver wire right now. Teams are constantly going after him. He bites like a fat kid going for a twinkie on fake outs, he runs as fast as he can to get to the top of his zone but the receiver is 10-15 yards in front of him to make easy catch's all day. He is definitely not fitting Spags system.

FinSaint · 12-11-2012, 04:17 AM

Well, to be completely honest about it, Brees has been under throwing those long balls for a couple of seasons now, so for those who say his arm strength is as good as it has been - you must be watching another game than I.

But, I'd just want to see Graham catch some balls thrown at him, like he did last season, and really fight for some yardage after the catch instead of just immediately going to the ground or the sideline after the initial contact.

Rell&Gold · 12-11-2012, 03:05 PM

The first int was tipped off of GRAHAMS hands and the second one Jimmy couldve made a better effort to catch that one

Rell&Gold · 12-11-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same.
I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month.

Bad decision making clearly...his arm is weak are serious did you see the 44 yrd pass toJoe Morgan off his back foot if im not mistaken

Rell&Gold · 12-11-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, to be completely honest about it, Brees has been under throwing those long balls for a couple of seasons now, so for those who say his arm strength is as good as it has been - you must be watching another game than I.

But, I'd just want to see Graham catch some balls thrown at him, like he did last season, and really fight for some yardage after the catch instead of just immediately going to the ground or the sideline after the initial contact.

Brees has never been known for Jay cutler cannon or Aaron rodgers type of arm he's always had accuracy

jkherron · 12-11-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

Drew's arm looks weak to me right now.

I agree...I think Drew's arm does look weak, he under throws a lot of passes.

12-10-2012, 12:50 PM	#21
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Nothing wrong with Drew's arm, now his decision making. Just a bad year. The cards were stacked against us. Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

12-10-2012, 12:51 PM	#22
BusDriver 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ICT Kansas Posts: 183	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others I get it that the blame is on them, I'm sure he puts it on himself, just as the others do themselves too. However to say every pick is the qb's fault, is like saying every incomplete pass is. I'm pretty sure I've seen these receivers, backs, and TE's drop balls this season. Sounds funny (tight ends drop balls).

12-10-2012, 01:08 PM	#23
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others There will be 6 NFC teams in the playoffs who don't have 100-million-dollar QB's. Just sayin'. Drew has the curse. Alaska

12-11-2012, 01:00 AM	#24
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others That is a bunch of Hogwash^^^^ the curse, seriously. If Drew Brees could toss that B**tch to himself you know he would. He would give himself way more time cause he would keep Aldon Smith and Justin Smith off him at the same time cause he would be blocking for himself. I bet you Gd well he would catch it too, and not fumble. The man can't catch his own passes. The people who are out there not pass catching, not blocking well, and fumbling after catching, or just dropping wide open passes are just as much to blame as Brees. And they are not making the same kinda scratch, but they are making significant scratch. Your paying Pierre a big contract to be in a backup role, Lance Moore the same, Colston is making number one receiver money and can't hold onto the ball in big game situations, Jimmy is about to get broke off any day now...... It's not just brees and his money ( WHICH HE DESERVED FOR CARRYING THIS FRANCHISE OUT OF THE ASHES IT WAS IN) It only hurts as much as it does because you expect better...... hell so do I... But who set that standard? The hundred million dollar man!!!

12-11-2012, 01:38 AM	#25
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by alleycat_126 That is a bunch of Hogwash^^^^ the curse, seriously. If Drew Brees could toss that B**tch to himself you know he would. He would give himself way more time cause he would keep Aldon Smith and Justin Smith off him at the same time cause he would be blocking for himself. I bet you Gd well he would catch it too, and not fumble. The man can't catch his own passes. The people who are out there not pass catching, not blocking well, and fumbling after catching, or just dropping wide open passes are just as much to blame as Brees. And they are not making the same kinda scratch, but they are making significant scratch. Your paying Pierre a big contract to be in a backup role, Lance Moore the same, Colston is making number one receiver money and can't hold onto the ball in big game situations, Jimmy is about to get broke off any day now...... It's not just brees and his money ( WHICH HE DESERVED FOR CARRYING THIS FRANCHISE OUT OF THE ASHES IT WAS IN) It only hurts as much as it does because you expect better...... hell so do I... But who set that standard? The hundred million dollar man!!! Makes sense when you think about how many pass's he threw to JG last year. This year JG leads the NFL in dropped pass's. Has god only knows how many bounce off his hands. Receivers fumbling the ball. Check downs being dropped constantly. O-line playing mediocre most of the time. NO ONE is stepping up on offense. The defense is finally starting to get there act together and the offense is in total shambles. The play calling has been crap all year. There is a reason Vitt has been an asst. coach for 30+ years, he is not head coaching material. Carmichael has shown this year that he really has not been the one calling the plays these last 6 years. Makes you wonder why he is even on staff. The list of problems go on and on. Drew has NO confidence right now and he don't have his mentor to straighten him out, so I don't see him getting out of this funk until the season is over. As far as Greer is concerned, Ashley NAILED it! I said the exact same thing watching the game. He is looking like Jason David right now. He looks absolutely lost. He made a joke after that ATL game we won, that he would have been on the waiver wire had he not swatted that pass in the endzone away. I can't help but think he should be on the waiver wire right now. Teams are constantly going after him. He bites like a fat kid going for a twinkie on fake outs, he runs as fast as he can to get to the top of his zone but the receiver is 10-15 yards in front of him to make easy catch's all day. He is definitely not fitting Spags system.

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12-11-2012, 04:17 AM	#26
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Well, to be completely honest about it, Brees has been under throwing those long balls for a couple of seasons now, so for those who say his arm strength is as good as it has been - you must be watching another game than I. But, I'd just want to see Graham catch some balls thrown at him, like he did last season, and really fight for some yardage after the catch instead of just immediately going to the ground or the sideline after the initial contact. Ashley likes this.

12-11-2012, 03:05 PM	#27
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others The first int was tipped off of GRAHAMS hands and the second one Jimmy couldve made a better effort to catch that one

12-11-2012, 03:08 PM	#28
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by Joker What was the excuse for the "5" INT game, no gloves, rain, cold weather or any of the things mentioned above. If we're going to slam everyone who has a bad game or two then Drew should be treated the same. I'll be the first to agree that without Sean Payton this team is not the same but no more excuses for Drew's terrible play over the past month. Bad decision making clearly...his arm is weak are serious did you see the 44 yrd pass toJoe Morgan off his back foot if im not mistaken

12-11-2012, 03:12 PM	#29
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, to be completely honest about it, Brees has been under throwing those long balls for a couple of seasons now, so for those who say his arm strength is as good as it has been - you must be watching another game than I. But, I'd just want to see Graham catch some balls thrown at him, like he did last season, and really fight for some yardage after the catch instead of just immediately going to the ground or the sideline after the initial contact. Brees has never been known for Jay cutler cannon or Aaron rodgers type of arm he's always had accuracy

12-11-2012, 03:12 PM	#30
jkherron Rookie Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 13	Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others Originally Posted by NOS2SB Drew's arm looks weak to me right now. I agree...I think Drew's arm does look weak, he under throws a lot of passes.
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