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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Even though our defense struggles at times, greer has looked lost all season when was our most reliable shutdown corner and best defensive player But he is an absolute weak link this year Teams are targeting him like never before ...

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Old 12-10-2012, 03:11 AM   #1
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Jabari Greer, Brees and others

Even though our defense struggles at times, greer has looked lost all season when was our most reliable shutdown corner and best defensive player

But he is an absolute weak link this year

Teams are targeting him like never before

He got burned twice in the ATL game for 54 and 49 yards, he is just getting beat soundly every single week

all our corners got owned vs giants but pat robinson and elbert mack put up a little bit of a fight

Dont even mention johnny patrick either, what a waste of space that dude is

whenever that kick returner made it past the 30 yard line, johnny patrick would make a half assed attempt at a tackle and totally whiff it, it happened 3 times

We have a lot of holes that need to be filled

I've seen brees throw better passes when he's under more pressure, he had a totally clean pocket and gift wrapped that pick when he tried to throw to graham

He knows not to make those throws, he never used to before, so why is he now?

Mark ingram and PT had a nice game when they were being run, I seriously think Ivory will be gone soon and Ingram will get even more carries, in my opinion his play in the second half of the season means hes earned them

"Ryan......INTERCEPTED....going back the other way with Jabari Greer......TOUCHDOWN....KILLER TOUCHDOWN for the saints!!!"
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:54 AM   #2
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Re: Jabari Greer, Brees and others

Drew's arm looks weak to me right now.
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Drew's arm looks weak to me right now.
Of course he'llnever say it but if it is you can blame ole Pete Carmicheal for that...
Throwing the ball 50+ a game will do that to you. Kinda makes me wonder why we have so many damn running backs if we throw so damn much.
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CB's - If we stick with Spags we need to focus on zone CB's, which are easier to find and less expensive.

Greer plays well man to man but does look bad trying to cover in zone.

I think our top 3 CB's are better suited to play mostly man coverage.
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Originally Posted by NOS2SB View Post
Drew's arm looks weak to me right now.
Nothing wrong with Drew's arm, now his decision making is another story. No way he should have thrown those two passes that were intercepted. Drew's trying to do to much and not letting his teammates do their jobs. As fans we've given drew a pass on his poor play, well enough lets just tell it like it is and he's playing like ****.
This man is not playing like a 100 million dollar QB, not the guy we've seen in years past.
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I'm sure arm strength has nothing to do with it, not to mention he was wearing gloves & the cold & the rain on top of it.
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Nothing wrong with Drew's arm, now his decision making is another story. No way he should have thrown those two passes that were intercepted. Drew's trying to do to much and not letting his teammates do their jobs. As fans we've given drew a pass on his poor play, well enough lets just tell it like it is and he's playing like ****.
This man is not playing like a 100 million dollar QB, not the guy we've seen in years past.
I agree....I think alot of it has to do with amount of pressure he feels thats on him. This is not the situation he expected to be in this year. $100mil contract. Everyone in the media saying basically he has to be the coach on and off the field. No SP to pull the reins back and calm him down when he's clearly pressing way to much. No matter how good he's been in the past one thing has always been constant with Brees he's had a head coach in SP that understood where his head and mood were at all times during practice and the games. And he took care of the minor details in every facet of the team to make sure everything went smoothly for the guy running the offense on the field.

Carmichael is not the type to throw in some plays short pass plays or hand offs after Brees makes a bad decision...it seems like he just encourages Brees to press even more with the way he calls plays. For example...those passes that were dropped, fumbled, or tipped and picked off by the likes of Jed Collins, Colston, and Graham would have been rectified by SP. And SP would have changed the playcalling accordingly until he felt it was time to go back to those players after major mistakes. Brees by himself is still gonna go back to his guys no matter what when in actuallity he should go to the ones that have more ball security and production i.e. the short pass/run game.
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Payton not being there has to play a role in Drew's bad decisions and the at times bad play calling...
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not to mention he was wearing gloves & the cold & the rain on top of it.
Exactly.
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Drew doing too much???? What does that mean exactly? he is doing exactly what he has been doing for the last 5 years just not as good. I hate to be the guy but i think we have seen his best years. The whole "drew doing too much" is bogus. drew trying to do too much would be him trying to kick field goals now
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