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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jessie Williams, AL? You may be on to something here JP. I read Rang's report on him (One of my favorites) and being that he compared JW's upside to Vince Wilfork damn sure got my attention... ...

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Old 01-28-2013, 03:22 PM   #281
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Jessie Williams, AL?
You may be on to something here JP. I read Rang's report on him (One of my favorites) and being that he compared JW's upside to Vince Wilfork damn sure got my attention...

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STRENGTHS: Has a naturally wide frame with relatively short limbs, giving him the low center of gravity conducive to holding up at the point of attack.


Possesses unbelievable weight-room strength (600 pound bench press) that translates well onto the football field due to his use of leverage and surprisingly good technique considering the fact that he's a relative neophyte who only took up the game at age 15 and has played just four seasons of football in the United States.

Has improved his use of hands over his two seasons at Alabama and has developed into a cognitive defender capable of reading the action, shedding the block with heavy, active hands and making the tackle in the hole.

Has the length to play outside as a five-technique defensive end, a role in which he initially played during his junior season with the Tide before sliding inside to the nose as a senior. Good phone-booth quickness and plays hard, competing to the whistle.

Also served as Alabama's short-yardage fullback in 2012, a testament to his power and aggression. An ascending talent with passion and work ethic to improve.

WEAKNESSES: Bit of a one-trick pony as Williams does not possess the quickness or the agility to collapse the pocket as a pass rusher. Must do a better job of protecting his knees as he is susceptible to cut blocks. Too often raises his pad level at the snap, negating some of his power and making him all the more vulnerable to cuts, as he possesses only moderate flexibility.

Has to do a better job of getting his hands up in passing lanes as he rarely gets home as a pass rusher (just three passes broken up in 25 career starts at Alabama).

Plays with good effort but lacks lateral agility and struggles to knock down ballcarriers with any room to maneuver.

COMPARES TO: Vince Wilfork, New England Patriots -- Like the Patriots' run-stuffing nose guard, Williams isn't going to pressure the quarterback often but his size and strength will make him a force in the middle.

--Rob Rang
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:06 PM   #282
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he always looked soft me. 600 lbs bench nice. want to see his rep counts at the combine
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
he always looked soft me. 600 lbs bench nice. want to see his rep counts at the combine
I think Jessie Williams may surprise and pop into the late first round...
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:03 AM   #284
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JP's Mock Draft Saints (updated 01/30/2013)

01 Alec Ogletree, LB, UGA

02 Goodelled (Bacarri Rambo, FS, UGA)

03 David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State

04 Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State

05 Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff

06 Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina

07 Cody Davis, SS, Texas Tech
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Who are you cutting to bring in Bell?
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Who are you cutting to bring in Bell?
Ivory may be a goner. Bell is probably a practice squad candidate for a year or so.

We could also save 2.5 million by cutting PT, which I strongly disagree with.
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JP's Mock Draft Saints (updated 01/30/2013)

So, the Saints would need to pick up a NT from the FA pool or would you be content with just Bunkley and Hicks... and maybe Tyrunn Walker (6-3, 294) as added depth, although he would need to bulk up and he might be a better DE?!


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I'm not okay with drafting a running back with our 4th rounder. I'm not okay with drafting a running back period. Let's say Ivory is gone, hurt, or whatever. That still leaves us with Ingram/PT/Sproles/Cadet. No need to waste a pick on another back... just pick one up via UDFA or FA. Backup running backs are a dime a dozen and we've always done a good job finding hidden talent.
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PT is the best screen back after All-Day in the business; that said, Saints brass may be looking to trim down the roster and Bell's size, blocking, and screen abilities are comparable and are great value when we draft in round 4...

I would love to trade back in first round and pick up another third rounder or gain a second rounder so we could nab either Jessie Williams, Alabama, NT or Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern; but I don't think they'll be there in the third round and I don't won't to rely on a fourth or fifth rounder at NT to hold the point of attack in the new 3-4 scheme...

I'm projecting based on what will be there when we pick...

Ivory will probably be tendered as either a third/fourth round pick, so he may be gone if someone like Arizona, Green Bay, Miami, Pittsburgh or Atlanta signs him...

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Bell has talent but they can't even get the running backs they have now enough carries. Even if they loose one, Cadet can fill in. This team was/is horrible on defense so most picks need to improve that side of the ball then again offensive line needs help too
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