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Old 12-17-2012, 07:28 PM   #61
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

problem was this

Armstrong served a four-game suspension last season for receiving benefits from booster Nevin Shapiro.

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Old 12-18-2012, 05:12 AM   #62
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
wahoo now for options lol

i really do not think cutting Greer is right but that contract needs to be part of the contracts redone. I change my pick with my first round pick.

previouly it was

Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 185.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44


ok the knocks on him is his reported 4.4 speed and the cush he gave wide receivers. so his stock may drop during the combine. now there is no way you can over look his ball hawking skills. he isn't a particularly physical tackler

my pick is TRADE DOWN. get a pick in the second.

Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
Height: 6-1. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.47




i would love to see the saints move back into the second and grab

Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
Height: 6-0. Weight: 184.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42


with the traded pick

T.J. McDonald, FS/SS, USC
Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.52


Yet another solid zone player that can step in an push for starting time. He is a FS but plays the run better than other FS in the game.

now i have to address RT somewhere lol. But that should change the saints secondary for years to come.


round 4

Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia
Height: 6-2. Weight: 216.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49


Isaiah Johnson*, FS, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 208.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57


7/FA head case pick - all the talent in the world but has he learned his lessons

Ray Ray Armstrong, S, Faulkner University
Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59
What did he do?
All I can see is he lied in a internal investigation and was thrown off the team.I did find this(below) don't know much about him.
"Armstrong, who could have left school after last season, has since seen his draft status drop. CBS Sports does not list him among the potential free safety draft picks while WalterFootball.com ranks him 23rd among safeties.
On a positive note, Armstrong was reportedly selected to play in the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl set for Jan. 19 in Carson, Calif."
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:53 AM   #63
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
FS is a priority to set the backfield, an outside linebacker is a must and though improved upfront Ellis is a weak link and always has been he's got to GO, we should be able to get a DE in free agency to replace Smith. , I also think our O needs some fresh meat on the line, they are getting pushed around alot, a new toy for Brees to throw at would be nice also, Payton also might think about a new QB. for the future our 100 million dollar man is getting older and if time is catching up we need his heir.
I meant to say SS is a must.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:57 PM   #64
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

We need to first find out what kind of Safety we need...

First, is Spagnuolo staying?

Second, is Jenkins move to CB more than just speculation?

Third, how much can we spend?
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Re: 2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
First, is Spagnuolo staying?

Oh, man I hope so!

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
We need to first find out what kind of Safety we need...
Hardly on the list of "first things" we need to do.

Its our strongest unit on defense.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:43 AM   #67
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I'm starting to like the idea of maybe dropping down a few dots if we can get a second round pick.
Looking at some of the mock drafts and with the likelihood of picking in the 14/18 range it could be worth dropping 4/5 spots down and still being able getting what is needed.Hopefully the Jags and Chiefs will go with the needed QBs and maybe even the Jets if there QBs continue to stink the place out.

Looking forward to the draft and preseason kicking in next year allready.
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Just reading some mock drafts and Margus Hunt SMU DE/DT being mocked as a third rounder for the Saints.
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Margus Hunt, 6'7 DE, Southern Methodist

Name: Margus Hunt (+) Coming off shoulder surgeries
College: Southern Methodist
Number: 92
Height: 6-7 Weight: 280
Position: DE Pos2:
Projected Round: Stock:
Rated number 7 out of 210 DE's

12/12/12 - 2012 ALL-CONFERENCE USA FIRST TEAM (COACHES): DL-Margus Hunt, Sr., SMU, has been selected First Team All-Conference USA (Coaches selection) for the 2012 college football season. Hunt, a senior defensive end, broke the NCAA career record for blocked field goals when he blocked his ninth career FGA against SFA and added another FGA block at UTEP.
Hunt also blocked a PAT versus Texas A&M and is now second all-time in career blocked kicks with 17 (10 FGA, 7 PAT). He leads SMU with six sacks in 2012 and is second on the team in tackles for loss (8.5). Hunt has totaled 14.5 career sacks and 25 career TFL. He also notched his first career interception in the win over Southern Miss. - SMU football

12/07/12 - SMU defensive end Margus Hunt has accepted an invitation to play in the 2013 Senior Bowl on January 26th in Mobile's Ladd-Peebles Stadium, the Bowl announced today. Hunt will be the 26th Mustang to play in the Senior Bowl and first since Thomas Morstead in 2009.
Hunt, who was named first-team All-C-USA earlier this week, broke the NCAA career record for blocked field goals when he blocked his ninth career FGA against SFA and added another FG block at UTEP. Hunt also blocked a PAT versus Texas A&M and is now second all-time in career blocked kicks with 17 (10 FGA, 7 PAT). He leads SMU with six sacks in 2012 and is second on the team in tackles for loss (8.5). Hunt has totaled 14.5 career sacks and 25 career TFL. He also notched his first career interception in the win over Southern Miss. - SMU football

12/06/12 - The No. 1 player on the "Freak List: The 10 craziest athletes in college football" is coming to the Senior Bowl, game officials announced via Twitter today. SMU defensive end Margus Hunt (6-foot-7, 288 pounds) has accepted an invitation to play in the all-star game on Jan. 26 at Ladd-Peebles Stadium in Mobile. The "Freak List" is an annual selection made by Bruce Feldman for CBSsports.com. Feldman said Hunt, who topped the 2012 list, "sounds like a Playstation football creation." Hunt is a native of Estonia and was the gold-medal winner in the shot put and discus in the 2006 World Junior Championships. He still holds the junior world record in the discus.
Hunt started playing football in 2009 at the recommendation of SMU's track coach. He blocked seven kicks that season. Hunt holds the NCAA record with 10 blocked field-goal attempts and is second all-time with 17 blocked kicks in his career.

Hunt is a three-year starter for the Mustangs and earned All-Conference USA recognition this season. In 2012, he has made 28 tackles, 8.5 tackles for loss and six sacks while blocking three kicks. Hunt becomes the second defensive end confirmed for the game, joining BYU's Ziggy Ansah. The Senior Bowl announced on Thursday that Ansah had accepted an invitation. - Mark Inabinett, Alabama Live

10/18/12 - SCOUTING THE DEFENSE: After shutting out UTEP, the Mustangs sprung a big leak in the first half against Tulane. Then, after allowing only 42 yards on the first six drives of the second half, they surrendered a 68-yard drive for the deciding touchdown. Injuries have depleted the secondary. With young players at cornerback and safety, opponents are targeting mid- and long-range passes. The front seven has been solid, but it cannot totally compensate for the backend weakness, especially against good teams. - The Sports Xchange
09/11/12 - 9/11/2012 NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: 2. Margus Hunt DE Southern Methodist...For a player who has received a lot of hype for his intriguing skill-set, Hunt's development on the football field isn't where most expected it to be entering his senior season. Many already know Hunt's feel-good story as a former track and field stud from Estonia who picked up the game of football three years ago. But besides his work on special teams with 15 career blocked kicks, Hunt has been extremely unpolished as an every-down defender. In the Mustangs' loss to Baylor in the season opener, he looked indecisive and lost on several plays as the action around him appeared to be moving too fast for him to catch up. Hunt is built well at 6-8 and 280-pounds but he doesn't have great football strength, easily being handled by single blockers and playing too high, limiting his leverage. He has athletic tools and will likely turn heads at the NFL Combine in February, but he will be drafted based on potential and not production because his play on the football field thus far has been disappointing. Being new to the game, scouts have been patient with him, but Hunt will need to show more as a senior this season to remain in the early round mix. - Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com


Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
Height: 6-8. Weight: 280.
Projected 40 Time: 4.83.
Projected Round (2013): 2-3.
11/17/12: The senior started out poorly in 2012 with a bad game against Baylor. He has played better since then including strong showings against Texas A&M, Houston, Southern Miss and TCU. Hunt has 23 tackles, six sacks, an interception, two passes batted and three blocked kicks so far this season. His technique in run defense and executing pass-rushing moves has really improved over the course of the season.

8/27/12: Hunt is a physical freak. The Karksi-Nuia, Estonia product is a raw player who really came on strong at the end of his junior season. He recorded all three of his sacks for 2011 against Pittsburgh in the Bowl game. Hunt also had 28 tackles with 7.5 tackles for a loss. He totaled 5.5 sacks across his freshman and sophomore seasons.

Hunt uses his height to be a dangerous weapon on special teams. He blocked seven kicks as a freshman, three kicks as a sophomore and four kicks as a junior. It is entirely possible that the senior could end his college career with nearly 20 blocked kicks. Hunt may be best as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 defense for the NFL.
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Hardly on the list of "first things" we need to do.

Its our strongest unit on defense.
I like the sarcastic humor coming from your post...

I hope... considering Jenkins was ranked 3rd worst cover Safety out of the 45 eligible to be ranked. We all know how great of a cover Safety Harper is, now thats some sarcasm there lol.



We need, in this order:

DT
OT
S
CB



I don't get the need for a LB. Lofton is solid Hawthorne is good and Chamberlain will be back, additionally do not overlook Casialls. Lets also factor in the possible re-structuring of Vilma's last few years.

Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
I'm starting to like the idea of maybe dropping down a few dots if we can get a second round pick.
Looking at some of the mock drafts and with the likelihood of picking in the 14/18 range it could be worth dropping 4/5 spots down and still being able getting what is needed.Hopefully the Jags and Chiefs will go with the needed QBs and maybe even the Jets if there QBs continue to stink the place out.

Looking forward to the draft and preseason kicking in next year allready.

We should get that second round pick back. Even the devil Goodell talked about the possibility to get the pick back, with everything that has gone on I think we get it back.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:13 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
I like the sarcastic humor coming from your post...

I hope... considering Jenkins was ranked 3rd worst cover Safety out of the 45 eligible to be ranked. We all know how great of a cover Safety Harper is, now thats some sarcasm there lol.
Then you'll like this too...

I'm sure that rankings had nothing to do with being without our head coach.

I'm sure that ranking had nothing to do with a new system that previous players said takes a long time to master.

I'm sure that ranking had nothing to do with a pathetic pass rush for most of the season.

I'm sure that ranking had nothing to do with our CB's being abused most of the season.

I'm sure that ranking had nothing to do with poor coverage by our LB's.

I'm sure he's the reason why our entire defense is about to set the record for the worst defense in NFL history.

I'm sure you understand all this.
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