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WhoDat!656 12-10-2012 05:09 AM

5 Biggest NFL Underachievers in 2012
 
The Saints defense

The spectre of BountyGate, the suspension of the head coach, his top assistant, the GM and several players all have made this a difficult season for the Saints, as evidenced by their 0-4 start. They’ve rallied nicely since then to get to the fringe of the playoff race, but it hasn’t been enough.

Why? Because the defense stinks, which is shocking considering it’s led by Steve Spagnuolo, a strong defensive coach who won a Super Bowl as defensive coordinator of the New York Giants. His defense this year is statistically the worst in the NFL. It’s also the worst against the run and 30th against the pass.

If they were even just a little better, the Saints might have already secured a playoff berth – and nobody would want to play them in the NFC.


Five biggest underachievers of the NFL season

dizzle88 12-10-2012 06:03 AM

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Don't forget drew brees

18 interceptions is unacceptable, he might just pass his highest total of 22 picks in a season in 2010

especially when the team paid him that much

Jamessr 12-10-2012 06:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 464093)
Don't forget drew brees

18 interceptions is unacceptable, he might just pass his highest total of 22 picks in a season in 2010

especially when the team paid him that much


Sad part is alot of people here will never fault Drew Brees. It will always be the defense or the recievers fault.

.... However not all of those 18 interceptions are his fault. I can easily recall 4-5 that was tipped or the defense just got lucky. It's bound to happen when you throw 50+ a game

WhoDat!656 12-10-2012 07:00 AM

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How many interceptions has the defense dropped this season?

There were a couple in yesterday's game alone.

As bad as Brees has played at times,the defense has lost more games for the Saints than Brees has this year!

SloMotion 12-10-2012 07:08 AM

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Lions haven't beat a team that's finished over .500 in that season since something like 2007. Underachievers in 2012? IDK, seems more to me like they're just maintaining the status quo ... @#$%! @#$%! @#$%! @#$%!

Jamessr 12-10-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 464107)
How many interceptions has the defense dropped this season?

There were a couple in yesterday's game alone.

As bad as Brees has played at times,the defense has lost more games for the Saints than Brees has this year!

How many 3 and outs have the Saints had this year that put the defense in horrible situations?

dizzle88 12-10-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 464153)
How many 3 and outs have the Saints had this year that put the defense in horrible situations?

too many to count

They often go 3 and out at the worst possible time aswell, like when we are trying to put the game away

chiefs game comes to mind, brees threw a dumbass pick that game that cost us the lead

jnormand 12-10-2012 09:26 AM

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I just want our coach back so we can get back to playing football.

saintsfan403 12-10-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 464110)
Lions haven't beat a team that's finished over .500 in that season since something like 2007. Underachievers in 2012? IDK, seems more to me like they're just maintaining the status quo ... @#$%! @#$%! @#$%! @#$%!

Except when they played the Saints in the wild card, right?

SloMotion 12-10-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 464173)
Except when they played the Saints in the wild card, right?

No, because they didn't beat the Saints and the Saints finished 13-3/.813. But that is the game I started facing some hard truths. You'll notice the trend has continued this year as they've been swept by the Vikings and lost to the Colts, both teams they had beaten previously as < .500 teams, but couldn't beat this season as > .500 teams.

My love for research, analysis and statistics is both a blessing and a curse, :lol:.

onebyone 12-10-2012 12:07 PM

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I wouldn't put our Defense on that list. I didn't expect too much out of them in the first place.

Now our offense, I would put them on that list in a heartbeat.

WhoDat!656 12-10-2012 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 464153)
How many 3 and outs have the Saints had this year that put the defense in horrible situations?

How many 90+ yd drives has the defense given up?

How many 3rd & longs has the defense let be converted?

SloMotion 12-10-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onebyone (Post 464221)
I wouldn't put our Defense on that list. I didn't expect too much out of them in the first place.

Now our offense, I would put them on that list in a heartbeat.

What about Special Teams? Do they come under the Defense as part of this list? Watching Morstead have to make the tackles on half his punts and seeing Mack pancaked was a little disconcerting, not to mention the 280yd/58yd avg/97yd TD return game by the Giants.

Just sayin' ... trying to remain positive, but that was oogly.

UK_WhoDat 12-10-2012 01:43 PM

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Being pure crap and then acting it
is not an underachievement.
:?

hagan714 12-10-2012 05:51 PM

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it was a team thing

special teams lost a few
offense lost a few
defense lost a few
coaching lost us few

The Dude 12-10-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 464103)
Sad part is alot of people here will never fault Drew Brees. It will always be the defense or the recievers fault.

.... However not all of those 18 interceptions are his fault. I can easily recall 4-5 that was tipped or the defense just got lucky. It's bound to happen when you throw 50+ a game

I do. I think it is inexcusable. I think he should have been benched at the end of the Atlanta game just to prove a point that he is not above being held accountable. I know he holds himself accountable and all but he has been pathetic this year. I hope this is not his true identity without Payton and I hope we don't have to find out.

AllSaints 12-11-2012 12:43 PM

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Ah... Not everything can go on Brees... that's whats wrong now a days everything falls on the QB... Ready for SP ! Whoaa

TheOak 12-11-2012 01:12 PM

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This is like arguing which you would rather be burned by hot lava, or molten steel...

SapperSaint 12-11-2012 01:22 PM

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or boiling diarrhea

lumm0x 12-11-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 464321)
it was a team thing

special teams lost a few
offense lost a few
defense lost a few
coaching lost us few


Exactly. Every facet and individual on this team was a steaming pile at some point.

Rugby Saint II 12-13-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 464484)
or boiling diarrhea

Well that would stink.;)


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