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AlaskaSaints 12-10-2012 07:31 PM

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I'm okay with losing the next three games and scoring a great draft pick. At the level at which we are playing, it's not too much to ask.

We were dealt an extra-shatty hand and we played it hard. No shame in the way this is playing out, just disappointment.

Alaska

TheEnigma 12-10-2012 09:20 PM

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We need to forget about this season. Its nice to be optimistic, but reality has to set in eventually. We are not going to the playoffs. The better we do these last few weeks, the worst of a 1st round pick we will have. I'm fine if we lose out, if it means getting a good pick in the 1st round. However we should NOT bench our starters. Let them play out.

WillSaints81 12-10-2012 09:24 PM

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I think we will win out we're done playing contenders and Dallas is in a dome and we hate the cowboys especially after the stuff their media stirred up.

Saint_LB 12-11-2012 03:29 AM

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I hope that everybody is wrong and it is not because Payton is not there.

I suspect it is because of other reasons...however, if it is because of Payton we may be in a world of poop, because I don't think he will ever be back.

I hope I am wrong. No...I actually hope I am right because I don't think it is Payton.

TheOak 12-11-2012 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 464369)
I hope that everybody is wrong and it is not because Payton is not there.

I suspect it is because of other reasons...however, if it is because of Payton we may be in a world of poop, because I don't think he will ever be back.

I hope I am wrong. No...I actually hope I am right because I don't think it is Payton.

You need to hope everyone is right... If not we have huge problem"S".

If it is not Sean Payton, would you care to enlighten us on the list of things that in your opinion need to happen to start rebuilding.

Why do you think he will not be back?

Saint_LB 12-11-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464387)
You need to hope everyone is right... If not we have huge problem"S".

If it is not Sean Payton, would you care to enlighten us on the list of things that in your opinion need to happen to start rebuilding.

Why do you think he will not be back?

I don't think he will be back because I don't think he likes living in a town that has the highest crime rate in the world...for one thing. I think the only thing that will keep him in NO is an injunction.

I also feel that he is a guy that needs a challenge and NO is no longer that. He can say, "Been there, done that."

As far as rebuilding...I'm not sure there is enough money to go around now, but we need big, strong, mean guys on the line on both sides of the ball.

People blame Payton not being on the sideline but I am having a hard time buying into that. If they had abandoned all of his schemes, etc., and had not learned one thing from him while he was on the sideline, maybe I could buy into it...but I think bountygate and Drewgate went a lot further towards what happened this year then Payton not being there during the games. The only blame I can point towards Payton is that he knew about bountygate and did nothing...and now he is not here...but I would say the scandal itself caused more anguish on the players than his absence on the sideline come gameday.

TheOak 12-11-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 464390)
I don't think he will be back because I don't think he likes living in a town that has the highest crime rate in the world...for one thing. I think the only thing that will keep him in NO is an injunction.

I also feel that he is a guy that needs a challenge and NO is no longer that. He can say, "Been there, done that."

As far as rebuilding...I'm not sure there is enough money to go around now, but we need big, strong, mean guys on the line on both sides of the ball.

People blame Payton not being on the sideline but I am having a hard time buying into that. If they had abandoned all of his schemes, etc., and had not learned one thing from him while he was on the sideline, maybe I could buy into it...but I think bountygate and Drewgate went a lot further towards what happened this year then Payton not being there during the games.

Have you ever played the game, on the field? (not being sarcastic)


If crime rate were an issue there are a hand full or teams that would never have a coach.

There are more than one anomalies this season that points directly to poor coaching.

Saint_LB 12-11-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464392)
Have you ever played the game, on the field? (not being sarcastic)


I played through JC...how about you?

It is because I played that I make my statement. The coaches prepared us with plays and schemes...but come gameday I never much cared whether he was over there or not. My head coach never had much influence on me as I was much closer to the position coach who coached me on a daily basis. He was the guy that would come up behind me during practice and whisper in my ear...not the head coach. All he ever did was stand over there and holler "fiddlesticks!" when things didn't go well.

Saint_LB 12-11-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464392)
If crime rate were an issue there are a hand full or teams that would never have a coach.

I think crime rate of a city would be a concern for anyone looking to move a family there...don't you?

I am not saying that nobody will come to NO because there is a crime rate, I am just saying that if given a decision between NO and another city...even after we have won...considering what Katrina did, it would be a difficult decision for a guy with a family to pick NO.

Speedy Ron 12-11-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 464394)
I think crime rate of a city would be a concern for anyone looking to move a family there...don't you?

I am not saying that nobody will come to NO because there is a crime rate, I am just saying that if given a decision between NO and another city...even after we have won...considering what Katrina did, it would be a difficult decision for a guy with a family to pick NO.


Honestly, if my family wasnt from here and lived here their whole life I would be outta here, living somewhere cleaner and somewhere where if i think i left my front door unlocked i dont have to turn around and go back home to lock it


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