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RockyMountainSaint 12-12-2012 08:39 PM

Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk
 
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NO ONE believes the hypocrisy that spews from this sewer!

Many have questioned whether the proliferation of Thursday football can be reconciled with the league’s unprecedented sensitivity to safety. Some think it can’t.

Commissioner Roger Goodell believes it can.

More accurately, he has yet to be persuaded that it doesn’t.

“We don’t have any information that indicates from our data that playing on Thursdays in any way decreases the safety of our players,” Goodell told the media after the conclusion of Wednesday’s quarterly ownership meetings. “The injury rates do not indicate that at all over the years. So I think we start with facts, and the facts are that that’s not a risk to the players.”

Some would say “facts” should yield to common sense and anecdotal evidence, which comes for example from accounts of players regarding the challenge inherent to preparing for an NFL game only four days after the last one.

Regardless, the players have agreed to the expanded use of Thursday night football. And so it will remain part of the game until the NFL and the NFLPA agree to stop doing it.
Goodell says Thursday football doesn’t put players at risk | ProFootballTalk

QBREES9 12-13-2012 12:19 AM

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NO ONE believes the hypocrisy that spews from this sewer!

This is true. Time to go Roger.

QBREES9 12-13-2012 12:19 AM

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NO ONE believes the hypocrisy that spews from this sewer!

This is true. Time to go Roger.

pherein 12-13-2012 02:40 AM

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Im surprised he does not host an "Ancient Aliens" show in the history channel at this point.

TheOak 12-13-2012 10:22 AM

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Like him or not.......

There is no way to quantify game danger based on day of the week. There is no more risk to injury on Thursday than there is Monday or Sunday.

Maybe Saturday is more dangerous... would explain College injuries.

Halo 12-13-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 464820)
Im surprised he does not host an "Ancient Aliens" show in the history channel at this point.


saintfan 12-13-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464916)
Like him or not.......

There is no way to quantify game danger based on day of the week. There is no more risk to injury on Thursday than there is Monday or Sunday.

Maybe Saturday is more dangerous... would explain College injuries.

But if it increases the frequency of 'live' contact - which I believe is part of the argument against, which is why the players wanted to reduce the number of full contact practice days with the latest CBA, then it's a valid question.

Roger stood before congress, NFL doctor at his side, and proclaimed NFL players were at no greater risk for 'head injury' than anyone else. Based on that, if Roger says there is no risk, the rest of the world certainly should assume he is full of dung.

Budsdrinker 12-13-2012 11:46 AM

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Thursday games should involve teams coming off of their bye so you would have 10 days off before you play and 10 days off after you play. Keeps everyone fresh.

RaginCajun83 12-13-2012 11:49 AM

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WOW Goodell is proof that if you lie to yourself enough you start to believe the lie. HELLO anyone with half a brain can see that Thursday games reduce the recovery time after games on Sunday. This guy is truely an idiot or just surrounded with so many YES men that he thinks he is a genius

onebyone 12-13-2012 11:51 AM

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This might be a good time for him to stfu for awhile.

TheOak 12-13-2012 12:01 PM

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Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season.

Beastmode 12-13-2012 12:36 PM

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Thursday games reduce contact. Two less practices in a season.

Less practice and less recovery is the recipe for an inferior product. Roger is not taking into account players that had to be benched because they were not ready. Play those players and the injuries go up. Those starters out and the quality goes down. Just looking at it from quanatative injury data is flawed to say the least.

TheOak 12-13-2012 12:38 PM

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So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

SmashMouth 12-13-2012 12:43 PM

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So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait...... :bugeyes:

Beastmode 12-13-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464952)
So there is no data to support,we go on theory?

Isnt theory how Bounty gate got started?

This is where Roger has failed:

1. Applying data
2. Making gut calls

A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say.

TheOak 12-13-2012 01:21 PM

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Are you saying in theory RG is not a douchenozzle? Oh wait...... :bugeyes:

I have the uncanny ability to not shoot the messenger. Regardless of who the messenger is, the message maintains its validity.

saintfan 12-13-2012 01:53 PM

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Roger says there is no evidence that Thursday games put players at more risk. You'd think the man on the quest to rid football of all its ills would err on the side of caution.

Bang the hell out of people in a game situation on Sunday, then come back and do it again 4 days later rather than 7 days later. Hmmmm...

TheOak 12-13-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 464961)
This is where Roger has failed:

1. Applying data
2. Making gut calls

A good leader knows when to use numbers and when you don't. This is one of those cases. The players told him the replacement refs would not work out. They told him his bounty evidence was false. They are telling him to ditch the Thurs game. They are begging him. He refuses to listen to anything they have to say.


Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money....

I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.

Budsdrinker 12-13-2012 02:04 PM

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What Thursday games do is actually water downs the talent you see on the field. I'll try to look it up tonight but if someone else wants to research it, look and see how many starters sat out of a Thursday game after being dinged in a Sunday game. I'll bet it's at least 10 starters that missed games.

Beastmode 12-13-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464975)
Because ... The NFL was founded by, and continues on as a profit business. Roger is trying to make money....

I sincerely doubt that RG him self has done any of the grunt work concerning Thursday Night games. That's all done through a research firm.


Then what does he do exactly? The way I understand the title is he is supose to be more of a wedge between the players and the owners. He is supose to entertain their thoughts and concerns at a bare minimum. He never does. I don't even get why he explains decesions because he will ignore all other points of view. He has changed the title to one that is always based on financial considerations when you simply can't do that all the time. The refs are a prime example.

TheOak 12-13-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 464980)
Then what does he do exactly? The way I understand the title is he is supose to be more of a wedge between the players and the owners. He is supose to entertain their thoughts and concerns at a bare minimum. He never does. I don't even get why he explains decesions because he will ignore all other points of view. He has changed the title to one that is always based on financial considerations when you simply can't do that all the time. The refs are a prime example.

The NFL is a multi hundred billion dollar corporation. Goodell is the face... A meat puppet if you will... In a normal company of that size the CEO is the highest power and authority with the exception of the Board of Directors. In this case the BoD are comprised of members worth more than the NFL.... not my point though..

In a company this size there are thousands of lawyers, analysts, marketing, etc... Goodells actions and words are vetted by all of them. No man in his right mind turns over a portion of a near trillion dollar empire to one man. Thats sheer lunacy. In the wake of Enron CEOs have less total power... Even the President of the United States is kept in check by a system of checks and balances.

The BoD meets often and from that they give Goodell his directive, every action he does to achieve that directive is vetted.

Take Apple and Microsoft for instance, for many years there has been speculation as to whether Jobs, and gates actually participate in the daily running of the companies of if they are just figure heads.....

Evidence of Goodells power and actual decision making is when the NFLPA or the NFLCA meet with the NFL, lawyers come to terms and make the deals... Not Goodell, he isn't even present at those meetings.

On a smaller scale when a VP of operations of a company tells a District manager to cut 20% of his personnel, he does it, or someone is found that will do it. That manager takes all the heat and beating while the VP still looks rosy.

What most people that do not come from a corporate environment or have held any noteworthy position in companies of that size, don't realize is that the two factions that run those companies are Human Resources, and Accountants. Most CEOs these days Halliburton for example are run by ex Accountants.

Beastmode 12-13-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 464986)
The NFL is a multi hundred billion dollar corporation...

The NFL is an unincorporated 501(c)(6) association, a federal nonprofit designation. Not being a jerk just wanted to point that out.


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