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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Saintaintso Start em now and fulltime ... Tired of Watching Harper get Moss'd Yeah, the 1 or two times that happens every year can be really frustrating huh? /sarcasm....

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Old 12-22-2012, 03:07 PM   #11
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Start em now and fulltime ... Tired of Watching Harper get Moss'd
Yeah, the 1 or two times that happens every year can be really frustrating huh? /sarcasm.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:17 PM   #12
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That was a great play, but the fact of the matter is, that it was only 1 play. The rest of his year hasn't been very good. Dropped INT's, missed assignments, missed tackles, and speed?? Are you serious? The whole reason Jenkins was moved to Safety is because of his LACK of speed and the fact that we played mostly man to man defense. The recent talk about a possible move back to CB next year is because we now play a lot more zone coverage which does not suit Robinson or Greer, but does suit a slower CB like Jenkins. Not hacking on ya man but Jenkins ran something like a 4.6 or 4.7, 40, just saying. In his first two years Jenkins did make some great plays, not so much the last two.
4.55 at the combine. 4.46-4.51 at his Pro Day.

He's not slow by any means... as we've seen the past two years(running guys down). I've said this in the past... Jenkins plays like a SS on the field. If he's still here when Harper is gone, I think he'll play very well there. It's weird as when he flashed his All Pro potential, he was playing nickel/safety. One would have thought a move to FS full time would have been perfect for him. I'm not ready to give up on him as a FS, but I'd like to see him go back to that role that he had success in. That way Jenkins, Quddus, and Harper can all see time on the field together.
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Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season

The young guys are impressive. I look forward to watching them grow.
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Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man View Post
That was a great play, but the fact of the matter is, that it was only 1 play. The rest of his year hasn't been very good. Dropped INT's, missed assignments, missed tackles, and speed?? Are you serious? The whole reason Jenkins was moved to Safety is because of his LACK of speed and the fact that we played mostly man to man defense. The recent talk about a possible move back to CB next year is because we now play a lot more zone coverage which does not suit Robinson or Greer, but does suit a slower CB like Jenkins. Not hacking on ya man but Jenkins ran something like a 4.6 or 4.7, 40, just saying. In his first two years Jenkins did make some great plays, not so much the last two.
He had a couple games this year where he showed excellent closing speed. I am not certain why he only does this at certain times, but the speed is there when properly motivated.
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4.55 at the combine. 4.46-4.51 at his Pro Day.

He's not slow by any means... as we've seen the past two years(running guys down). I've said this in the past... Jenkins plays like a SS on the field. If he's still here when Harper is gone, I think he'll play very well there. It's weird as when he flashed his All Pro potential, he was playing nickel/safety. One would have thought a move to FS full time would have been perfect for him. I'm not ready to give up on him as a FS, but I'd like to see him go back to that role that he had success in. That way Jenkins, Quddus, and Harper can all see time on the field together.
Jenkins, Quddus and Harper would be a nasty combination. What if there was a way to work Bush into the rotation as well? All 4 of them are turning out to be excellent players. Imagine of they were all on the field at the same time. I think I have seen this happen on 2nd and 3rd downs at times. And if I recall correctly it either ended up in a pass deflection, an interception, or a dropped pass.
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Get rid of Harper or bulk him up to play LB. Bush and Quddus at Safety and Jenkins at CB (where he belongs)
Jenkins played CB when he started for us but he sucked so bad at that position. Come to think of it he just sucks period. He got moved to FS where he hasn't done crap at all. I'm all for the new players taking over.
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Jenkins talked about Quaddus and Bush being depth- he!! he should realise he just lost his starting spot to Quaddus, his head is still in the clouds. Quaddus is our starter, trade Jenkins for some picks...please and invest in a corner that can play corner.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:35 AM   #19
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Jenkins talked about Quaddus and Bush being depth- he!! he should realise he just lost his starting spot to Quaddus, his head is still in the clouds. Quaddus is our starter, trade Jenkins for some picks...please and invest in a corner that can play corner.
Agreed

We draft corners every year and not one of them can play (except elbert mack but we didn't draft him)

We need a dominant CB, I have no idea how Patrick Robinson was ever a first round pick, that was like a "all the best players are gone, just choose anyone scenario"
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:11 PM   #20
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The defense has been significantly better without Jenkins, and when Harper is not in there. Cut our losses.
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