Goodell “disappointed” Tagliabue did not hold Saints accountable
 

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell worked for Paul Tagliabue, has always expressed admiration for Tagliabue, and believed Tagliabue was the right man to determine the player discipline in the Saints bounty case. But after Tagliabue overruled Goodell and decided that no Saints players would be suspended, Goodell is disappointed in Tagliabue.

“I was disappointed he could find conduct detrimental and there is no discipline, that he could excuse that type of accountability as a coach’s responsibility,” Goodell said of Tagliabue in an interview with the New York Times. “I don’t share that perspective. This isn’t a new policy. The bounty rule has been in place for decades. It’s a core part of our rules.”

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I'm disappointed he ran a botched investigation and can't admitt he was wrong...

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I'm disappointed Goodell wasn't prosecuted for perjury...

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I'm disappointed Goodell was allowed to have children. I feel for those kids every day - what a horrible thing.

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I'm disappointed Goodell he still has a job.

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Really?

Tags let Reggie White and the Packers run it in the late 90s.

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I'm just plain "disappointed" in the NFL. The quality of the product (players) is the best ever, while the pizz poor product (rules changes, Goodhell BS) has resulted in a drop in ratings. All under the leadership of Goodhell......and I also hate ESPN, I would consider them enablers of the commissars policies, all for the sake of enhanced ratings. Merry Christmas

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I won't name names but my mom's boyfriend has a guy who played for the 49ers in the late 90s. He told him that the 49ers would call practice squad guys up just for the purpose to be the guys that got into fights and laid out big hits with intent to injure the other team.

But sure Goofdell the Saints were the first team ever to do this. Shut up you dolt

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From Peter King ...

I think the one thing about Roger Goodell that becomes apparent the more this sour year goes on is this: He is his father's son. Goodell has an immunity to criticism that is like few people in the public eye I have encountered. He learned to have a Teflon suit of armor from watching his father, former New York congressman and senator Charles Goodell, take the slings and arrows of his job, including going against his party when he spoke out against the United States' continued involvement in the Vietnam War. It's not over yet for Goodell, who will have to take the slings and arrows for HGH testing, a defamation suit by Jonathan Vilma and his trip to New Orleans for the Super Bowl.

Quote of the Week III
"I was disappointed he could find conduct detrimental and there is no discipline, that he could excuse that type of accountability as a coach's responsibility. I don't share that perspective. This isn't a new policy. The bounty rule has been in place for decades. It's a core part of our rules."
-- Commissioner Roger Goodell, to Judy Battista of the New York Times, in his first expansive comments on Paul Tagliabue's rebuke of his discipline in the New Orleans Saints bounty case.
If you still think Tagliabue was somehow "protecting'' Goodell with his ruling, you wouldn't think that from talking to those close to Goodell -- or, now with Battista's story, by hearing from Goodell himself. It's clear the mentee, Goodell, is angry with the decision of his mentor, Tagliabue. The other money quote from Goodell: "If you want to be a cheerleader, go be a cheerleader. If you want to be a commissioner, then go make the decisions."


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From the NY Times ...

But in the 11 months since then, Goodell has been more lightning rod than object of praise, buffeted by criticism of his handling of issues, including player safety, a bounty investigation and the lockout of game officials, whose replacements were widely derided. While the N.F.L. continues to boom — its games have been the top two television shows in all but one of the first 15 weeks of the season (ranking third once); its stadiums are at 98 percent capacity this season; and the NFL Network is now being broadly distributed — so, too, does the drama.

In the last year, the number of former players suing the league in concussion-related lawsuits rose sharply and now stands, by one count, at more than 4,000. The players’ union filed a collusion complaint against the N.F.L. Last week, Paul Tagliabue, Goodell’s mentor and predecessor as commissioner, vacated the discipline that Goodell had imposed on players in the New Orleans Saints’ bounty case. The decision by Tagliabue was a surprising, public setback for Goodell. That led to a stinging critique from Saints quarterback Drew Brees, who said Goodell had “little to no credibility” with players. It was perhaps a self-interested overstatement but indicative, nonetheless, that Goodell’s relationship with at least a segment of N.F.L. players has deteriorated. Goodell’s reaction to Brees, during an interview in his office Thursday, was a snapshot of how he has publicly handled much of the backlash this year. “I keep doing my job,” he said. Then he shrugged.

Goodell framed the Saints’ bounty case as a matter of player safety, too. One week after Tagliabue affirmed the league’s finding that the Saints had placed bounties on opponents, but dismissed Goodell’s discipline of the four players while shifting the blame almost entirely to the team’s coaches and management, Goodell said he did not believe he should have handled the contentious case differently, reiterating that he thought he did an effective job. That is an answer likely to disappoint, or enrage, Saints players and fans who were hoping for Goodell to concede he had erred, or at least reassess how he should have handled the investigation and its fallout. (Goodell suspended Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma for the season, the former Saint Anthony Hargrove for eight games, the Saints’ Will Smith for four games, and the Browns’ Scott Fujita, a former Saint, for three games. He also suspended New Orleans Coach Sean Payton for the season, among other discipline against Saints coaches and officials. Fujita was cleared of any wrongdoing by Tagliabue.)

Goodell said that in an era when players had more input into how teams functioned, they should be held as accountable as team officials. And he rejected the idea, contained in Tagliabue’s report, that the gradual implementation of a steroids policy, by the former commissioner Pete Rozelle, might have served as an example for a better way to handle the bounty case and the attempt to affect a culture change to rid the game of bounties.

“What you’re doing is you’re enforcing the rules,” Goodell said. “What is clear is there were violations of the bounty rules. That’s not just my opinion and our facts. It’s been supported by everyone who has looked at it, including Commissioner Tagliabue. That doesn’t belong in the game of football. And that’s something we’ve made very clear. We didn’t look for this. But when it occurs, you’ve got to deal with it and make sure there is no misunderstanding that everybody is accountable.”

He added: “All of us have a role to make sure the game is safer. I was disappointed he could find conduct detrimental and there is no discipline, that he could excuse that type of accountability as a coach’s responsibility. I don’t share that perspective. This isn’t a new policy. The bounty rule has been in place for decades. It’s a core part of our rules.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/sp...ybattista&_r=0

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Its common, if they ever want to put a dent in this kind of play, they do something about the useless Injury report.

I know the 49ers ran a bounty system in the 80s, I am pretty damn sure that the 49ers are running one right now, as well as the Ravens and Steelers. Most likely Panthers are heading in that direction.

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I am disappointed Goodell's mother was allowed to have children.

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Bullcrap! There has never been a "bounty rule".

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Fact is the saints were told to stop in 2010. They didn't. So they suffer the consequences. However the consequences were EXTREME in this case. Goddell should've used common sense but didn't. So now he's feeling the wrath. And deservedly so.

Truth is he has handled most other situations correctly, drink driving, assault etc. but he got it flat out WRONG in the bounty gate.

So he's essentially ruined our season. Asswipe.

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Roger knows all this information. He knows everything, even more than the most informed fan or sport journalist. This was never about the Saints alleged program and if people don't understand that by now then they never will. If we knew the truth on both sides of the coin it would be sickening. Sickening to the point it could costs them possibly billions. I firmly believe this show was put on to expose as much as they could with doing the least amount of damage. The NFL is not serious about it you say? Look, look what they did to the Saints! It was unprecedented.
The former players with these lawsuits pending are understanding that an organization like the NFL will shoot themselves in the knee with their own bow and arrow before they take a shot in the chest from them.

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Wrong! Goodell approached the Saints about accusations levied by Brad Childress that they had placed a bounty on Brett Favre. They said they didn't and didn't lie. They were told to not place bounties in the future and they didn't. You can't stop something you aren't doing.

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I think Tags ruling means old Roger is too butthurt to give us that 2nd rounder back.

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When the former players get their day in court the Saints punishments will have an impact on the decesion making process in favor of the NFL. It's all about self preservation. If you or I were an owner we would do the same thing. Big picture: It had to be done. If it has to be done, do it to a good team in a small market.

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No. I wouldn't do the same thing. At some point you have to take your medicine.

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“I was disappointed he could find conduct detrimental and there is no discipline, that he could excuse that type of accountability as a coach’s responsibility,” Goodell said of Tagliabue in an interview with the New York Times.

I want our picks back! he has wrecked the market value of the saints. so next time they tell the state and the tax payers to show him the money or we will lose out on all the money the nfl brings to the state. remind him we get a discount because of his actions!

we need a class action law suite based on this premise

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That's ok, I'm disappointed that goodell hasn't dropped dead yet. We all have to deal with a little disappointment in our lives. Some of us just deal with it a little better than others.

Oh, BTW, when he does drop dead, party's at my house.:itsgood:

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That's right.