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4everSaint 01-01-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 469273)
Give me a proven pass rusher, none of this "he's raw but got a ton of upside crap" sick of hearing that "he'll be good in a couple years," we need them to be good now

We need someone who is a proven impact player and can make a difference straight away

This!!!

Wilde18 01-01-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 469311)
This!!!

Signed! But a few youngsters in the second line, with good skills and the ability to be future players are ok!

hagan714 01-01-2013 07:56 PM

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If we are talking safety at 15 there is only one player worth taking there that knows how to play the position

Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State

Jenkins plays closer to line as a so called SS, which is no longer a true position with all the rule changes in the NFL. he seems to play best in a 20 yard zone from the OL

Let Banks play deep zone. He plays off WR as it is.

So the saints take to the field with all CB in the secondary

burningmetal 01-01-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 469182)
Also I agree that white and p-rob are going to be great corners next season. Greer is done too. Gone was once our so called best cb tandem with Greer and porter. Those days long gone.

Patrick Robinson is the worst Corner I have ever seen in a Saints uniform. And there have been some bad one's. I don't think there is a prayer he ever becomes good, much less great.

It's hard to say what we need the most, but just by virtue of having Lofton in the middle, I believe linebacker is our strongest point. It ain't good, but the D-line and secondary don't have anyone with the same impact as Lofton. Must get a pass rusher, and find some way to get some secondary help in free agency.

westbankdaze 01-01-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 469384)
Patrick Robinson is the worst Corner I have ever seen in a Saints uniform. And there have been some bad one's. I don't think there is a prayer he ever becomes good, much less great.

It's hard to say what we need the most, but just by virtue of having Lofton in the middle, I believe linebacker is our strongest point. It ain't good, but the D-line and secondary don't have anyone with the same impact as Lofton. Must get a pass rusher, and find some way to get some secondary help in free agency.

I'm not so sure about that. He could have led the team with picks this season. Dude is extremely athletic - he had his hands on a lot of passes this season. I have a hunch he will break out next season.

burningmetal 01-02-2013 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 469385)
I'm not so sure about that. He could have led the team with picks this season. Dude is extremely athletic - he had his hands on a lot of passes this season. I have a hunch he will break out next season.

I don't believe I've ever seen someone compliment a player for something he could have done. But if you wanna look at it that way, Roman Harper has dropped about 30 interceptions in his career. 7 years in, he has not broken out. But personally, I haven't noticed where P-Rob has had that many opportunities to get an INT. He gets burned so badly, he is never close to the ball. he has a tendency to just stop in the middle of a receiver's route, and when teams throw short passes in front of him he always backs up instead of making the tackle.

I would love for you to be right about him, but based on everything he's done, I don't see a shred of evidence that he'll be any good.

Papa Voodoo 01-02-2013 12:14 PM

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We have good safeties in-house. Pass Rushing Beast Monster gets my viote.

voodooido 01-02-2013 01:26 PM

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If I read it correctly it would only save like a million if we cut Harper which sucks because I think he is the first that needs to go. Our backups played better then him. I would give them a chance next year and pass on a early safety. OT, D-line and CB are 3 needs that must be addressed first.

voodooido 01-02-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 469384)
Patrick Robinson is the worst Corner I have ever seen in a Saints uniform. And there have been some bad one's. I don't think there is a prayer he ever becomes good, much less great..

Um, do you remember Alex Molden?

Papa Voodoo 01-02-2013 03:07 PM

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Molden and Jaon David. More passing yards per play against him than open space. That is pathetic.


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