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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'd like us to change our approach and make Ingram our feature back, much like we did with deuce, even in 2006 deuce was our carry the load back...

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Old 12-31-2012, 03:49 AM   #11
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I'd like us to change our approach and make Ingram our feature back, much like we did with deuce, even in 2006 deuce was our carry the load back
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:57 AM   #12
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I like Ivory but who is going to trade for a back that can't stay healthy?
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:06 AM   #13
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It is my hope that Ingram is finally starting to break out after his performances the latter part of the season. I don't want to give up on him just yet and I don't think the organization wants to do that either. Ivory is a restricted free agent, so we could tender him with a draft pick high enough to make a team in need reach for his services if they really want him. PT and Sproles aren't going anywhere. As much as I like Ivory, if someone is willing to part with a high enough draft pick after he is tendered, I would say pull the trigger on it. I believe next year we will see mostly the three-headed monster of Ingram, PT and Sproles. That would leave Cadet being the fourth RB with possibly another undrafted free agent slipping in to make the practice squad.
I like this scenario because it allows for keeping the backfield intact with a reserve in Cadet, plus he can field punts/kicks and you get something of value for Ivory to put towards the defense.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:16 AM   #14
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I don't see the Saints parting with Ingram. Maybe if Ivory could stay healthy, but, he can't, so, they won't.

I think D_it_up has the right idea with tendering Ivory with a high draft pick. Best move the team has.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:11 AM   #15
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I don't see teams offering him the money for a high pick.With RB dropping later now in the draft teams are happy to wait.
Lacy is being marked as a late 2nd/3rd round pick,Bell the same. Silas Red 3/4 and Kenjon Barner a 4/5 coming off 1,624 yards and 21 touchdowns this season and is averaging 6.6 yards per carry. 19 receptions for 232 yards 1TD

Best we can get is a 5th maybe lucky and nab a 4th but I doubt it.The man can't stay injury free and I don't think teams take a chance.

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I like Ivory but who is going to trade for a back that can't stay healthy?
Easy answer... NOBODY.

We might get a 6th or a 7th. I'd rather keep him.

Until he's actually costing us a valuable roster spot somewhere else, I'd keep him and play him when the other backs get beat up.

When healthy the dude is a flat out beast. As Hokie puts it, he's an anvil in cleats.
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I think this team has a knack every August for keeping the best 53 players, AT THAT TIME, whatever their position. Cadet basically fought his way into the roster, resulting in somebody else getting cut, at another completely different position. No one will trade anything of value for Ivory, because practically no one else knows who he is, besides the people in this forum.

If any of these backs aren't here next year, it will probably be because somebody else made a better case for proving their worth and value for that spot on the 53. To be "depth" on the Saints roster at the end of preseason, you are not just competing against the 4-5 guys at your same position, but against basically everybody in camp, who may be better at what they do than what you do. Payton is a master at tweaking and juggling those last 3-4 spots to fit the best players on there.
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practically no one else knows who he is, besides the people in this forum.
Tell that to Barrett Ruud.
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Ruud is a journeyman backup player who has been on what? Five different teams now? How many teams has Ivory been on, besides the Saints. Ruud is a second round draft pick, from a BIG school (Nebraska), he's got seven years experience in the league. Ivory's undrafted, paid the league minimum salary, from a school that a lot of people don't even know has a football program. In terms of their resume, the two are not really similar at all, they almost couldn't be more opposite of each other.
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Ruud is a journeyman backup player who has been on what? Five different teams now? How many teams has Ivory been on, besides the Saints. Ruud is a second round draft pick, from a BIG school (Nebraska), he's got seven years experience in the league. Ivory's undrafted, paid the league minimum salary, from a school that a lot of people don't even know has a football program. In terms of their resume, the two are not really similar at all, they almost couldn't be more opposite of each other.
You completely missed my point. When you said that no one knows about Ivory outside of this forum, I brought up Ruud. In his rookie year, Ivory absolutely TRUCKED Ruud so hard that his dreds left a permanent imprint. Now that you mention Ruud being a journeyman back-up player, Ruud was actually a pretty decent starting MLB for the Bucs until Ivory demolished him. He hasn't been right ever since. I'm sure he's told the other four teams he's played on about Ivory.
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