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WhoDat!656 12-30-2012 07:57 PM

Question for the Forum
 
Will the Saints keep 4 RBs next year?

The Saints were fairly successful using a RB-by-committee system, although, unless it was punishment for fumbling in the pre-season, I don't know why Ivory wasn't used earlier.

If the Saints decide to just keep 3 RBs next year, I see Ingram as being traded, hopefully for needed defensive help.

TheEnigma 12-30-2012 08:14 PM

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I think either Ingram or Ivory will be gone in the off season. Just my opinion.

lee909 12-30-2012 08:21 PM

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Id trade Ingram for a second or early 3rd.

Danno 12-30-2012 08:54 PM

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No, we keep 5...Ingram, Ivory, Sproles, PT, and Cadet.

GeauxForMore 12-30-2012 09:22 PM

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Ingram is not getting traded, so that's out the window. I hate saying it but the only RB that won't be back next year is Ivory.

The Dude 12-30-2012 10:29 PM

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I think trading Ingram is out, and we can actually get something for Ivory and have got to plug holes some how. We have no money so look for trades to be the way to acquire what we need.

QBREES9 12-30-2012 10:31 PM

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It ain't broke don't fix it.

D_it_up 12-31-2012 01:18 AM

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It is my hope that Ingram is finally starting to break out after his performances the latter part of the season. I don't want to give up on him just yet and I don't think the organization wants to do that either. Ivory is a restricted free agent, so we could tender him with a draft pick high enough to make a team in need reach for his services if they really want him. PT and Sproles aren't going anywhere. As much as I like Ivory, if someone is willing to part with a high enough draft pick after he is tendered, I would say pull the trigger on it. I believe next year we will see mostly the three-headed monster of Ingram, PT and Sproles. That would leave Cadet being the fourth RB with possibly another undrafted free agent slipping in to make the practice squad.

lee909 12-31-2012 01:59 AM

Be interesting what we could get for Ivory.Cant see anything better than a 5th.

Crusader 12-31-2012 03:17 AM

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I would prefer if we kept fewer back and made one of the our featured back. Don't think that will happen thou.

dizzle88 12-31-2012 03:49 AM

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I'd like us to change our approach and make Ingram our feature back, much like we did with deuce, even in 2006 deuce was our carry the load back

vpheughan 12-31-2012 06:57 AM

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I like Ivory but who is going to trade for a back that can't stay healthy?

SloMotion 12-31-2012 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by D_it_up (Post 468911)
It is my hope that Ingram is finally starting to break out after his performances the latter part of the season. I don't want to give up on him just yet and I don't think the organization wants to do that either. Ivory is a restricted free agent, so we could tender him with a draft pick high enough to make a team in need reach for his services if they really want him. PT and Sproles aren't going anywhere. As much as I like Ivory, if someone is willing to part with a high enough draft pick after he is tendered, I would say pull the trigger on it. I believe next year we will see mostly the three-headed monster of Ingram, PT and Sproles. That would leave Cadet being the fourth RB with possibly another undrafted free agent slipping in to make the practice squad.

I like this scenario because it allows for keeping the backfield intact with a reserve in Cadet, plus he can field punts/kicks and you get something of value for Ivory to put towards the defense.

stickman 12-31-2012 07:16 AM

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I don't see the Saints parting with Ingram. Maybe if Ivory could stay healthy, but, he can't, so, they won't.

I think D_it_up has the right idea with tendering Ivory with a high draft pick. Best move the team has.

lee909 12-31-2012 08:11 AM

I don't see teams offering him the money for a high pick.With RB dropping later now in the draft teams are happy to wait.
Lacy is being marked as a late 2nd/3rd round pick,Bell the same. Silas Red 3/4 and Kenjon Barner a 4/5 coming off 1,624 yards and 21 touchdowns this season and is averaging 6.6 yards per carry. 19 receptions for 232 yards 1TD

Best we can get is a 5th maybe lucky and nab a 4th but I doubt it.The man can't stay injury free and I don't think teams take a chance.

Danno 12-31-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 468936)
I like Ivory but who is going to trade for a back that can't stay healthy?

Easy answer... NOBODY.

We might get a 6th or a 7th. I'd rather keep him.

Until he's actually costing us a valuable roster spot somewhere else, I'd keep him and play him when the other backs get beat up.

When healthy the dude is a flat out beast. As Hokie puts it, he's an anvil in cleats.

SaintsBro 12-31-2012 09:11 AM

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I think this team has a knack every August for keeping the best 53 players, AT THAT TIME, whatever their position. Cadet basically fought his way into the roster, resulting in somebody else getting cut, at another completely different position. No one will trade anything of value for Ivory, because practically no one else knows who he is, besides the people in this forum.

If any of these backs aren't here next year, it will probably be because somebody else made a better case for proving their worth and value for that spot on the 53. To be "depth" on the Saints roster at the end of preseason, you are not just competing against the 4-5 guys at your same position, but against basically everybody in camp, who may be better at what they do than what you do. Payton is a master at tweaking and juggling those last 3-4 spots to fit the best players on there.

D_it_up 12-31-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 468982)
practically no one else knows who he is, besides the people in this forum.

Tell that to Barrett Ruud.

SaintsBro 12-31-2012 09:43 AM

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Ruud is a journeyman backup player who has been on what? Five different teams now? How many teams has Ivory been on, besides the Saints. Ruud is a second round draft pick, from a BIG school (Nebraska), he's got seven years experience in the league. Ivory's undrafted, paid the league minimum salary, from a school that a lot of people don't even know has a football program. In terms of their resume, the two are not really similar at all, they almost couldn't be more opposite of each other.

D_it_up 12-31-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 468997)
Ruud is a journeyman backup player who has been on what? Five different teams now? How many teams has Ivory been on, besides the Saints. Ruud is a second round draft pick, from a BIG school (Nebraska), he's got seven years experience in the league. Ivory's undrafted, paid the league minimum salary, from a school that a lot of people don't even know has a football program. In terms of their resume, the two are not really similar at all, they almost couldn't be more opposite of each other.

You completely missed my point. When you said that no one knows about Ivory outside of this forum, I brought up Ruud. In his rookie year, Ivory absolutely TRUCKED Ruud so hard that his dreds left a permanent imprint. Now that you mention Ruud being a journeyman back-up player, Ruud was actually a pretty decent starting MLB for the Bucs until Ivory demolished him. He hasn't been right ever since. I'm sure he's told the other four teams he's played on about Ivory.

UK_WhoDat 12-31-2012 10:08 AM

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I reckon we should keep a maximum of 4, but way of a change use them when they seem they can be effective.

Much better than having 5, and under-utilising the rushing playbook.

Mardigras9 12-31-2012 02:00 PM

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Trade Cadet, keep the rest.

Danno 12-31-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 469098)
Trade Cadet, keep the rest.

Seriously? You wouldn't get a bag of stale chips for Cadet.

Mardigras9 12-31-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 469105)
Seriously? You wouldn't get a bag of stale chips for Cadet.

If he is considered a RB, I'll take that stale bag, or maybe a stale O-lineman, or hell just buy me a beer at the Dome.
Just thinking of freeing up a RB slot for something else, if he is considered that. If not, I retract.

Danno 12-31-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 469108)
If he is considered a RB, I'll take that stale bag, or maybe a stale O-lineman, or hell just buy me a beer at the Dome.
Just thinking of freeing up a RB slot for something else, if he is considered that. If not, I retract.

We wouldn't get a pick for him at all. Maybe a 7th, but I doubt it. I'd rather keep him as a returner and Sproles back-up, and he costs us less money than every player on our active roster.

If you want a draft pick, you're gonna have to trade Darren Sproles.

Budsdrinker 01-01-2013 08:54 PM

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cadet is a special teamer and they are working him some as wr. he's cheap and don't think he's going anywhere. I think devery is gone and cadet, toon and Morgan will take up the slack with Colston and Moore.


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