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spkb25 12-31-2012 07:22 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Man I must be the only one hoping he stays. I thought the D really showed a lot of improvement.

ST coach may need to go or WR coach or DLine coach.

Jamessr 12-31-2012 07:25 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
I'm not sure how I feel about this one tbh.

The guy came into alot of issues with the GM, assistant head coach and the Head Coach being suspended.

However this guy isn't a rookie coach. I still personally blame him for not judging his guys to see how much of the new scheme was working. It wasn't until Vilma came back that some blitz were used. And we had somewhat good results.

As far as the player quaility... I'm not sure about that either.

westbankdaze 12-31-2012 07:52 PM

We have probs with personnel and coaching. Our defense has ranked in the bottom for the last 4 seasons with the exception of 2010. I still can't figure out what we were doing that season that made the def click but it does seem to show that we might be able to get it done with the players we have.

Still I don't think spags zone defense works for our guys. GW knew how much are players blew that's why he threw so many blitzes during his tenure.

I'm not a fan of spags - not with his record the last few seasons as a HC or a def coach. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at season's start but the scheme has just plain stunk all season.

I really think MJ is a bust and as much as I loved Harper in the day he just isn't there any more. We need a polamalu big time back there.

Our corners I think can improve and I am not sold and letting them all go.

The defensive line could get better but we need some freaking linebackers big time. I think lofton is good but I don't know what we are going to to do about the other two positions.

Part of me would like to see us get a 3-4 defense back like the ole days but how many players do we need to get to do that?

pumpkindriver 12-31-2012 09:35 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
As bad as our defense was this season, there were flashes of briliance. In the SP era, we've always given up tons of yardage. I don't think we really have the personnel atm to be effective in Spag's scheme but with some key moves in the off season and perhaps drafting some good young talent maybe we can turn the corner defensively next year. We all have our opinions, mine is for keeping Spags for one more season, but ML,SP and the rest of the front office will decide what they think is best. All we can do is go "Wahhhhhh" if we don't like or agree with it.

st thomas 12-31-2012 09:49 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Just how many of us would really be pissed off hurt is he did get canned?

RaginCajun83 12-31-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Spags isn't leaving, Payton signed off on him coming in so let's see what happens next season after some of the underachieving overpaid POS's on defense are gone. If the defense breaks the yardage record again then cut ties with the whole defensive coaching staff

QBREES9 12-31-2012 11:11 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
He had an off year.

jlouhill 12-31-2012 11:43 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
I'm not for canning him after one year. Let's see what he can do hopefully with a few different players. Now if the D doesn't continue to improve into next year then he needs to go.
Now the special teams coach, He needs to GO!

Vrillon82 01-01-2013 12:24 AM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
I find it hard to blame Spags in this debacle.

I think the problem is the players on Defense side is just not that great.

I mean look at players who were starting on our Defense that had left for other teams, they never really made it out of 2nd string status except Tracy Porter, and Porter got burned repeatedly in Denver.


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