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Budsdrinker 01-01-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
He did something that 90% of people on this board wanted and benched shanle the last 8 Weeks and the defense didn't improve. Personally I blame the new cba. It's his first year here and he has only so many practices with contact. I believe it took the whole year for him to really evaluate the players we have to work in his system. I'm willing to give him at least half of next year when he has a full coaching staff to see what he can do. Remember vitt is the Lb coach who wasn't able to fully apply himself to that position. If by game 6 of next year the d is still in the cellar then go ahead and can him but I think after all the distractions of 2012 he deserves more time.

hagan714 01-01-2013 08:04 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
LOVIE SMITH IS ALL I HAVE TO SCREAM

burningmetal 01-01-2013 08:10 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Spagnuolo took a bad Giants defense, in his FIRST year there, and after a couple bad games to start that season he completely turned it around. Everybody says we don't have the Giants personnel... well, then why did they suck so bad before he took over? I'll concede that we don't have the pass rushers, but we have guys with potential who aren't getting any better (with the exception of Cam Jordan). The fact of the matter is you are expected to improve what you are given. We didn't have to be as good as his Giants defense, but we needed to be better than we were last year, not worse. Especially not MUCH worse. But I'm content with giving him another year, considering I really wanted the Saints to get this guy for years.

Let's see if we CAN get him some better players, and give him another shot.

darstep 01-01-2013 08:31 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
At the pro level, if nothing else, you should demand fundamentals.
GW couldn't get it out of this group and neither could Spagnuolo.
Give him some time to get "some" of the pieces he chooses, then let's judge results.
These guys were slow, couldn't cover, couldn't tackle, couldn't pass rush...
I wish I could buy him a drink.

The Dude 01-01-2013 08:56 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Ill give him a pass this year. I want to see him in a year with our HC and no drama surrounding the team and some better personnel. Gregg Williams did not have to deal with near the amount of **** Spags had to deal with this year.

RaginCajun83 01-01-2013 09:40 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Haslett is like Romeo Carnell and Norv Turner, as cordinators they look like God's gift to football yet they suck as head coaches. Not everyone can be Sean Payton

Vrillon82 01-01-2013 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 469265)
Just an observation: Mike Ditka was never a good coach in Chicago. It was Buddy Ryan's defense who carried that team.

Oh Hell no.


Like I said many times before, Ditka came here because Buddy D suggested as much. Buddy D did more to destroy the Saints than what most people believe or think to due to his relationship with Tom Benson.

Majsmith 01-01-2013 10:50 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Shows how little you know about coaching football. All emotional reactions. If you knew what you were talking about, you would say keep him!

lee909 01-02-2013 01:59 AM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
He should get the year to sort things out.
He deserves the chance to get some players he wants in the draft.
The players and team would have been pretty lost last offseason.No head coach,LB coach taking control of the team then disappearing for 6 weeks.
He could not gameplan with Smith or Vilma as he never knew when he could use them.No pass rush,a secondary that couldnt cover a gandma.

Nobody performed this year and i wouldnt like to be any of them players when coach Payton walks through that door.Going to be some serious words thrown dished out.

I would like some much needed consistency through this year.
If its poor again this year then Payton and Loomis will make the changes needed.

I wouldnt be against Lovie Smith but
1) He wil get job offers
2)Even if he took the job we would be looking for a new DC next year,when he took another job.

Vrillon82 01-02-2013 04:16 AM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 469402)
Haslett is like Romeo Carnell and Norv Turner, as cordinators they look like God's gift to football yet they suck as head coaches. Not everyone can be Sean Payton

The thing about Haslett is, everyone saw this during his tenure here in New Orleans is that he can be a decent coach, but his staff on the other hand sucks, we would of been in the playoffs for years under Haslett if he would of got rid of the excess baggage known as Rick Venturi.


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