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SloMotion 01-02-2013 10:32 AM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
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Originally Posted by Belair57 (Post 469551)
so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year

... because the offense had above-average talent? Insert a couple of talents on this defense in key positions, like say a Charles Tillman, a Clay Matthews and/or a JJ Watt and you have a totally different outcome.

I just think it's short-sighted to want to replace a D/C after such an offseason/season and especially doing it just because your players don't like the guy.

Who's running the asylum? The inmates? I'd get rid of a few disgruntled, anonymous and undoubtedly marginal talents on defense before I ****canned a coordinator, just sayin'.

Mardigras9 01-02-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NOS2SB (Post 469517)
Lovie Smith for DC.

I think Spags gets another year with payton but man that would be awesome.

44Champs 01-02-2013 11:10 AM

First, I'd like to go on record as saying that Rick Venturi is the worst D Coordinator that we've ever had, not Spags, despite the infortunate "record".

I didn't like the Spags hiring at the beginning of the year - I felt that we disnt have the right personnel to fit his schemes and philosophy. In time, i started seeing some hope and some good play from the defense. The jury's still out on him, but I have a feeling Payton's input will fix a lot of things.

NuNu318 01-02-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 469570)
I'd like to go on record as saying that Rick Venturi is the worst D Coordinator that we've ever had. I didn't like the Spags hiring at the beginning of the year, and despite our unfortunate "record", i started seeing some hope. The jury's still out on him, but I have a feeling Payton's input will fix a lot of things.

That is one aspect people are starting to forget about Spags' situation. If he would have had a normal offseason (that includes his HC and his GM) things would have been different believe me.

Its hard for you to pick up FA's to compliment when you don't have the 2 most important people there to OK that move or know who the f*** your boss is going to be that week. Spags was pretty much given a bag of scraps that had a note that said "IOU next season" on it from the Saints organization.

jeanpierre 01-02-2013 02:01 PM

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Okay, we'll revisit why Sean Payton is a Good Coach and why others have the Jim Mora System Syndrome...

cue Golden Light, Angels Harmony

***You build your system around the guys you have and put them in the best position for success***

I like Spagnulo, but the Defense has been inconsistent in its improvement and he should be released...

However, Coach will probably want to work with him at least one season before reaching that conclusion...

SloMotion 01-02-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikemike (Post 469680)
I looked and I don't see anyone named "anonymous" on the roster.

I didn't think you could even fit that name on a jersey, but I guess you can, :lol:
http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[na...tomback.chain]

saintsfan403 01-02-2013 03:41 PM

Re: Spags: I hope hes canned
 
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Originally Posted by Belair57 (Post 469041)
I guess Im just quick to fire a guy that put trash play on the field, despite the off field distractions. He needs to be held accountalbe in some fashion.

Maybe Payton will cane him in front of the team.
Over all the team was like a high school kid being left unsupervised by his parents for a weekend...look at the play calling on offence, poor special teams play...everything was just willy nilly.
Give Spags a year under big daddy SP and see what he can do. I'm optimistic.


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