Which Saints players wont be back for the 2013 season?
 

There will hopefully be a major shakedown of the defensive roster, although there will be some changes made on offense as well.

Here are some of the players I believe have played their last game in a Saints uniform:

Scott Shanle
Will Smith
Jonathan Vilma
Devry Henderson
Sed Ellis
Tom Johnson

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I agree with this list though I'd personally like to see Vilma back.
I'll come down and help Ellis, Smith and Shanle pack.

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I`m guessing Bushrod will depend on the money he wants.

Take Vilma off the list and then it is good. He personally had a freaky season. He will be coming back stronger next year and keep the defense stable

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I think Henderson will be back but i could be wrong. I think Vima will be back.

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I'm thinking Smith comes back after restructuring his contract...

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I think Morgan has made Devry expendable, unless he takes a pay-cut.

If Vilma restructures his salary, he could be back.

Where is henderson? Injured?

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UFA

UFA??? What does this stand for?

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Probably add Chase Daniel to the list. There are a couple or so teams he could probably get a shot at starting.

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unrestricted free agent

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Loomis is on record saying the Saints typically have 20-25% player turnover year over year. If the case, we will see 10-12 new faces in 2013.

On IR the Saints have;

Toon - WR
Arrington - WR
Romeus - DE
Tanner -WR
M. Jones - OT
C. Brown - OT
Baynard - RB
Chamberlin - LB

Just to name a few.

And this means?

@mitch: And this means?

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An unrestricted free agent may sign with any club, with no compensation owed to his old club, through the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp (generally late July). At that point, his rights revert to his old club if it made a "tender" offer (110 percent of last year's salary) to him by June 1. His old club then has until the Tuesday after the 10th week of the season to re-sign him. If he does not sign by then, he must sit out the season.
If no tender is offered by June 1, the player can be signed by any club at any time throughout the season.

An unrestricted free agent must have completed four or more accrued seasons with an expired contract.

Ok, thanks a lot mitch!

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agreed with all the list except tom johnson, that guy can play and always gets overlooked, no matter how many plays he makes in games

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Tom Johnson stays. That guy is a beast. He consistently got pressure on the QB. Turk Mcbride leaves probably. But not Johnson.

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I agree with keeping Johnson. I would like to see Vilma back. Watching Sunday's game I said at one point watching Morgan that I was watching Henderson's replacement. The rest of the list I agree with.

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Ellis...gone
Bushrod will probably want too much money...gone
Smith and Vilma? If they don't take a pay cut or restructure, gone. I honestly want to see Vilma at least one more year, but I'm done with Will Smith.
Henderson? Gone. He may as well change his name to Claude Raines, because he became invisible after the first few weeks of the season, and Morgan has supplanted him as our deep threat.
Shanle? Should have already been gone.
Harper? Maybe a restructure? He may be iffy in coverage at times, but there is no denying he is one of the teams better tacklers. Plus, he could provide some leadership to a very young secondary. Especially if more DB's are added. Honestly, I was somewhat impressed by him this year under a new scheme. More than I thought I would be.

I think there will be a lot more turnover of personnel on this team than a lot of people are expecting, even with the salary cap situation, even if it is mostly draft picks, undrafted free agents, or minimum-salary type veterans.

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I could also see either Chris Ivory or Mark Ingram being traded.

I personally would rather keep Ivory over Ingram, but I wouldn't be disappointed if we kept all of the RBs; imagine what SP could do with that backfield.

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I believe Vilma will be back... He played good and next year will be 100 percent I like Lofton Hawthorne Vilma as the linebackers... we just need that DT that can help fill some holes durin the run game so we can get our linebackers to make a play... Ellis def didn't do that Bunkley.. eghhh I like what I see from hicks another year under his belt he should be really good

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Release - Ellis, Shanle, Herring, McBride.

Restructure - Bushrod, Smith, Vilma, Henderson

Draft - Spags' D requires pressure from the front four -

Rd 1 - Ezekiel Ansah

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This! Ansah is a LB @ 6'6" 270... Spags could move him all over the place in different situations!

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Great story, new to football, ability off the charts, only getting better.

However, still raw, undeveloped, unproven. Love to see him under Spags.

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Arrington was released and tanner on the PS. would like to see tanner given a chance, he catches everything thrown his way.

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Don't know what happened to Greer this season.
Jenkins couldn't say let's tackle.
Ellis couln't even show up in this contract season.
Smith may have to play for free.
Defense may get totally revamped.
I wouldn't be mad at all.

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I posted in the Big Board thread that Ansah intrigues me. I am leaning towards him as the guy I want the Saints to draft.

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I want Vilma Back

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My worry with him is that he may not be ready now.
If we didnt have so many problems that needed fixed i wouldnt mind a player like that but turning down a player that can do the job now is a risk.
Im really not sure whether i would prefer a OT/DE/DT in the first.
Id be tempted to leave the DE till the third when the likes of Carradine and Hunt could still be there.

Should have a better idea after the combines and Free agency starts.

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To me, it depends on what Jake Long wants, I don't extend Bushrod just because he's my guy. A healthy Jake Long is worth two damn Bushrods and you can get him on the cheap now because he has been hurt all season.

I'm all for it if it can be done.
We need so much that if we can get one done in FA if be made up.

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Well if that is the case there is no way were drafting LB's, we would be drafting that DE, OT, CB because a healthy LB core with

Lofton, Vilma, Hawthorne, Casillas, and Chamberlain is gonna be this teams backbone, if they can stay healthy!!!!

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I forgot all about Chris Chamberlain... Wonder what he will bring to the table?

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I agree about Morgan probably taking Henderson's spot. It's really a shame we didn't use Joe more as it was becoming clear we weren't going anywhere. But he showed a lot of flash this year, and even if he never becomes a top two receiver on this team he will fill Devery's role just fine. Devery can still run, but for some reason he just isn't open anymore.

Also agree about Vilma, though I think it will have to be a significant restructure for him to return. He's going to have to take a massive pay cut, but he may very well have no other choice, so I won't be surprised if he stays. He shouldn't start, though. We're in trouble if we can't do any better than him. Love the guy, but he's lost more than a step.

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i think Henderson and Shanle will be gone for sure. The only thing we can be sure of beside that is Payton will come back with a definite plan.

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I think Bushrod and Vilma stay. I also see Morgan replacing Meachem as our deep threat and maybe Toon taking Devry's spot (Henderson is pretty old too). I don't imagine Ivory and Cadet will both be here though, Elis will go (that can't happen soon enough), Shanle, Smith might restructure and hopefully a slough of secondary players (everyone except Jenkins and maybe Mack) get canned.

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Lofton never checks out of a play which is another reason I want Vilma back. He may be old, slow and doesn't tackle very well anymore, but I still want him for the defensive captain and chess player against opposing QB's.