Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"?
 

I ran across this statement on a web site i did not book mark.

Technically, Roger Goodell has gone on record saying he could possibly restore the Saints 2013 second round selection in lieu of a later-round pick. Until he does, however, it’s assumed they will be without this pick.

But i need help finding this statement.
i have been looking but nothing yet.

Re: Goodell on record "could possibly restore the 2nd round pick"?
 

Hagan;

Saints could recoup 2013 2nd-rounder, but NFL could dock them other picks - CBSSports.com

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"If they embrace the opportunity and participate in a constructive way, commissioner Goodell said he would consider mitigating the financial penalties on the individuals. In the case of the team, the commissioner would consider whether there are factors that would support modifying the forfeiture of the team's 2013 second-round draft choice."

Translated: If they agree with everything I say, I may give them a break. The team hasn't been fighting it so much as the players, so, we'll see what happens.

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Sounds more like BLACKMAIL

"If you don't speak your mind - I'll keep this carot in front of you, at least for now".

Keep the damn pick...

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I'm with you on that, screw him and what he has done to this team. ( although that would be nice to use on guess what.... The Defense again )

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If us getting this pick back is conditional rather than goodell doing the right thing then it becomes a matter of principle. If that's the case i'll do without the second rounder thank you very much. We've done pretty good in the later rounds anyway. The NFL can take a long walk off a short pier as far as I'm concerned.

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The carrot before the horse. Bite this goodell

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Screw the damn 2nd round pick, this tool bag isn't giving it back because everything I've read said it will cost the Saints later round picks. When was the last time the Saints did well in the 2nd round? HELLO ... Saints have shown they can find gems later in the draft so maybe it's time to back off some just keep things the way they are

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Excuse me for saying this because I know all types of Saints fans read this site and some of them are youth but this pisses me off. I will find a nice way to tell you where he can stick that f*&^in second round pick. I wouldn't kiss his ass or the NFL ass for no picks. Suckass rodgers can kick rocks!!!!

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I don't think it would necessarily be Payton, Loomis or Vitt kissing Goodell's or anyone's ass in the NFL actually. They all did what was expected of them during their suspensions. They were good little boys. You didn't hear of them breaking any of the "rules" that Goodell set for them with their suspensions. The only problem is that Goodell is so butt-hurt over Tagliabue's decision that he probably isn't going to give us that 2nd rounder anyway. He refuses to apologize, because he thinks he is right. With the players suspensions being thrown out, Goodell is going to have his one last attempt in screwing the Saints, and that will be not giving back the 2nd round pick.

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The article is from back in April, there's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. It would be the right thing to do, but whenever has Goodell worried about doing the right thing throughout this entire process?

:burn:

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We can't even get an apology from Roger and we're going to get our 2nd round pick back?! :rolleyes:

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HEY, GOODELL! SHOVE THAT PICK WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE BECAUSE WITH OR WITHOUT IT, WE'RE WINNING THE LOMBARDI IN 2014 AND WE'LL DO IT WITHOUT YOUR HELP!!!!
YEAH, I DID CAPITALS. WATCHA GONNA DO 'BOUT IT?

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My thoughts exactly.

Take your 2nd round pick
Shine it up real nice
Turn it sideways
And stick it up your candy ass

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What I find funny is that come draft day, many of us are going to be saying "Damn, I wish we had a 2nd round pick". :p

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It won't happen, of course. I can see us trading back for a few picks. Maybe we can get an extra number one for next year and a number two for this year.

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Boy that would be sweet ! I hope it happens...

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Puny humans!

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We need that pick. I sure hope we get it after everything the team has been through.

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Considering that they've only had 2 2nd round draft pick during the recent 5 drafts - 2010: Charles Brown and 2008: Tracy Porter - it's pretty difficult to evaluate their 2nd round draft success.

But just to give you the other recent 2nd rounders:

2006: Roman Harper
2005: Josh Bullocks
2004: Devery Henderson & Courtney Watson
2003: Jonathan Stinchcomb

So, I'd say that they've had some pretty good picks in the 2nd round, and I'd take that 2nd rounder back in a heart beat even if it meant that the franchise had to do some groveling in order to make it happen.

A pick is a pick is a pick, and the higher they are, the more valuable they are.

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From that list only Devery was decent which goes to show this team can't draft in the 2nd round

It's like this organization doesn't value a 2nd rounder the same way us fans do

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IDK, naturally you are entitled to your opinion, but I think most would evaluate at least Porter, Harper and Stinchcomb to also be at least decent 2nd round picks.

No team hits on their every pick, on every round, and each and every year, so we have to think about this within that framework, and based on that - I'd have to say that the Saints have faired quite well with their 2nd round picks.

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Agreed. I'd say the only two of that group that they really tanked on were Watson and Bullocks. The jury is still out on Brown, but so far, not so good. Devery, Stinch, Porter, and Harper turned out to be beneficial for the Saints in one way or another.

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Dont hold your breath waiting on Goddell to do anything for the Saints. We always do worst with our first rounders

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After he leaves New Orleans in February, we will be lucky to have a franchise. This City is going to show it's A$$ to him whenever the opportunity presents itself. And outside of anything illegal, I'm going to love every second of it. Screw that Ba$tard!!

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I think he'd like to see an incident free Superbowl and what better way to appease the natives than restoring that draft pick the week before the Superbowl.

It won't keep some folks quiet, but it'll help.

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Are you bringing your new gun to the corral? :broccoli:

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Godhell you can kiss my arse. Keep your 2nd round black mail attempt. He wouldn't be giving us anything anyway, he would simply be screwing us out of other draft picks. No f$#&ing thank you.

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Only times the Saints hit on their 2nd rounder was Devery, Vilma and Shockey. Only including them two cause it took trading that pick to acquire them. As for Goddell, that POS can keep the 2nd rounder and shove it, I hope the city show how displeased we are with this ******** when he shows up for SuperBowl week

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So, Porter - the SB XLIV hero - was a missed 2nd rounder in your book?!

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I'm by no means trying to argue but IMO yes, those 2 INTs will go down in Saints lore just like "Hakim drops the ball" but really what did he do besides those 2 plays while he was a Saint?

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He was a decent CB that made a couple of memorable plays. The fact that he looked really bad here for the last two years and was benched in Denver should tell you he's not nearly the CB some claim he is. He is mediocre.

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Eff you goodell!!! That is all.

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Well I'm not a fan of Porter by any means and I was glad to see him go elsewhere rather than see the Saints re-sign him, but in all honesty, the nickle role he was forced into with the Saints didn't suit him at all and the biggest reason why his season with the Broncos wasn't really successful was his injuries which kept him off the field.

But, the question here remains: what constitutes a successful pick?!

Not all successful picks end up being franchise players for the team that picked them, no matter where they are picked in the draft, and when players like Porter play a crucial role in the eventual first SB trophy being brought to a franchise - one could easily say that picking him was a good call by the franchise. I'm talking about a "right guy - right situation" type of a deal, which in all likelihood wouldn't have happened if the another guy was originally picked instead of the player that was.

I'm merely saying that there are more layers to this evaluation process than just just determining whether the player picked ends up being a top 5 player at his position.

Oh, and its a proven fallacy - many times over on these boards - the claim that the Saints always miss on their 1st round picks. They actually have a pretty decent track-record during the last decade, a record that could be favorably compared to the record of many other franchises during that same timespan.

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The more picks we have the better the odds of improving the team...

What I don't get is why the Goodell and his associates who denied taxpayer and consumer accountability is not being addressed?!?

Consider Goodell's misguided vendetta sabotage example of the Saints season this year...

Goodell's arrogance in defying the request of disclousure of the evidence to...

First, the Louisiana taxpayers who's money his league has taken for upgrades to the Superdome and the Benson Tower Spire purchased with taxpayer money...

Second, the consumers, some of those same taxpayers, who buy NFL products including, but not limited to Game Tickets, Network Television Packages, Merchandising...

Why is he not being forced on this issue?!?

He's has tried to avoid a truthful, forthright, DUE Process of an examination of the facts, which has Goodell feels his CBA is above common law of our land...

PEOPLE, HIS ACTIONS BASED ON HIS INTERNAL REPORTS REQUIRE ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE LIGHT OF DAY TO TAXPAYERS ...

AND IF IT IS SHOWN THEY CAN'T PROVE THEIR CASE ON THE PART OF THE PLAYERS, THEN...

GOODELL AND THE LEAGUE OFFICE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO...

RETURN ANY AND ALL FINES TO THE TEAM THAT IS FINANCED BY TAXPAYERS AND LEAGUE CONSUMERS...

RETURN BOTH DRAFT PICKS TO THE LOCAL AFFILIATE OF HIS ORGANIZATION, THE NEW ORLEANS SAINTS, THAT HIS LEAGUE SOLICIT AND MARKET SAID TAXPAYERS AND CONSUMERS...

FINANCIAL RESTITUTION TO THE STAFF WHO WERE'NT GIVEN DUE PROCESS THAT IS THE COMMON RIGHT OF ALL CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY...

AND HE SHOULD AND STAFF WHO ADVOCATED THE POSITION OF AVOIDING, LIMITING PUBLIC DISCLOUSURE OF THE LEAGUE REPORT SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE WITH THEIR JOBS AND ANY FUTURE PENSION OR EARNINGS FROM THE LEAGUE...

WHY IS THE MEDIA SO IGNORANT, RELUCTANT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE?!?

THIS IS SERIOUS AND ABOVE THE VANITY OF OUR FANDOM OF THE TEAM!!!

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That would be great, my question is, Hagan, where the hell have you been man!