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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Well it wasn't anyone new to the Defense, so that rules out a few at least. It sickens me that this leaked out. How can our "culture" have changed so quickly?! I hope it doesn't take SP too long to ...

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Old 01-02-2013, 12:15 PM   #11
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Well it wasn't anyone new to the Defense, so that rules out a few at least. It sickens me that this leaked out. How can our "culture" have changed so quickly?! I hope it doesn't take SP too long to fix this mess!!!
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:18 PM   #12
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

We really don't know the level of stress these coaches were under this season. The defense was awful but I think the man deserves another shot, he has proven himself already in the NFL and it's impossible to build a solid defense in one season. Bringing in someone else and starting over seems counter productive. I don't want to see that happen at this point. He has a whole off season to clean it up. I think it will be fine.
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

How about this point of view:

If we had a playoff game on Sunday would that player still be saying this? Had we finished with the same record but the defense was ranked 25th, would this player still be saying this?

I am of the opinion that this guy has no more than 2 years with the Saints... Everyone else knows the value of Las Vegas.... and what happens in Vegas.... This also strikes me as someone new that came from somewhere where there was a different environment.. again a rookie. Vilmas comments further enforce that this is someone with very little history with the Saints. The Patricks have been getting beat to all hell ... look in that direction. It fits.

As far as for Vilmas comments: J.V. doesn't hold back as we have seen through out the season. If the statements were true he would have at the minimum alluded to some friction. He didn't.

Lofton didn't just claim he was OK with being in New Orleans, he has been pretty adamant that he is loving it. Not something you expect to hear from a guy who is miserable with his Coach...

Lastly make no mistake here. When you go into an organization and want to make full scale change there is always resistance. You must break them over to the new way with no discussion. Once it is broken over then you can discuss how to make things better.

I find it EXTREMELY difficult to believe that Loomis and Payton would have brought in the personality that the anonypuzzy described as being Spagnuolo.
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

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The defense anyway ... these guys need to get it together and knock this stuff off ... they sound as bad as the Lions for crissake!

It's understandable a few guys are gonna' lose their jobs next season, no need to act like junior high school girls and cry to the press, .

Nothing pisses me off more than dissention among the ranks, . Nip that stuff in the bud right off, before it spreads.
Whom ever made that statement regardless of it being true or not deserves to be cut... He has no concept of TEAM, or unity.

Those are the people that find a pin-less grenade in close proximity by accident.
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

Obviously we don't know who said it, but I am willing to bet that Sean Payton would never tolerate that kind of gum-flapping and finger-pointing and attitude if he were here. You'll notice the old guys from the Super Bowl (like Vilma) are far more concerned with character and personal behavior, responsibility, and how you carry yourself. You don't say that kind of stuff. This type of backstabbing, whining, whispering, and finger-pointing has no place in a Sean Payton Saints locker room. He would absolutely have a cow if he were here right now.
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

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Obviously we don't know who said it, but I am willing to bet that Sean Payton would never tolerate that kind of gum-flapping and finger-pointing and attitude if he were here. You'll notice the old guys from the Super Bowl (like Vilma) are far more concerned with character and personal behavior, responsibility, and how you carry yourself. You don't say that kind of stuff. This type of backstabbing, whining, whispering, and finger-pointing has no place in a Sean Payton Saints locker room. He would absolutely have a cow if he were here right now.
He is probably dilated right now....
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Lets not forget....the reason why we had such a s*** season.....


because someone who didn't like the fact that he was being let go....decided to be an unnamed source in a BS investigation to take the team down......



guys who lack testicular fortitude are usually the guys who end up destroying teams.....hopefully this guy is already on his way out or going to be after the SB and Payton gets back (especially if this story lingers in the mean time)
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

Please stop blaming spag's. it's not his fault he does not need to be fired. Our D line couldn't get pressure when GW sent the whole house plus the kitchen sink. Our defense is out of shape slow take horrible angles. This has been a revolving problem. Spag's is a hell of a coach. Our defense just under achieves. They have the mentality of "oh if we screw up our offense will bail is out" I'm getting tired if hearing that. DO YOUR JOB AND STOP OPPOSING OFFENSES!!!!
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Man oh man I do love me some Vilma. The man has bark AND bite.
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Re: Jonathan Vilma takes issue with Steve Spagnuolo report: 'We're not the Jets'

Since ya no longer need evidence or sources when reporting, I'd like to issue a press release that Roger Goodell has had a long term sexual relationship with herds of goats. Plural.
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