Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I agree with Drew. The team had a lot of problems this season. He was one of them. Drew you win as a team, and you get screwed as a team. It was Roger Goodell fault....

Like Tree28Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-05-2013, 07:43 PM   #11
Threaded by QBREES9
Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 23,982

Show Printable Version Email this Page
Rating: (0 votes - average)

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint View Post
I agree with Drew. The team had a lot of problems this season. He was one of them.
Drew you win as a team, and you get screwed as a team. It was Roger Goodell fault.
Rugby Saint II and SloMotion like this.
Views: 6839
Old 01-07-2013, 09:27 AM   #12
Site Donor 2015
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Land Mass between LA and AL
Posts: 4,375
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

Overall, he mostly did enough to win most games even with the INTs.
Mardigras9 is offline  
Old 01-07-2013, 03:58 PM   #13
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wherever I lay my hat
Posts: 3,824
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

Originally Posted by QBREES9 View Post
Drew you win as a team, and you get screwed as a team. ....
Yes


Additionally
Originally Posted by QBREES9 View Post
......It was Roger Goodell fault.
UK_WhoDat is offline  
Old 01-08-2013, 07:44 AM   #14
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 1,583
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

As much as I blamed drew for boneheaded interceptions he threw this year the defense is the main reason we're at home and not in the play offs. Every game we played except for maybe 2 we had to score 21+ to just stay in it...
Of course you're going to throw because you feel you must score on every drive. Its been said before had we had an average defense we would have been ok.
I still blame Sprags 100% for not evaulating his players in the 5 Preseason games. If you're guys are not getting the new scheme you as a former head coach and the defesive coordinator must adjust and he didn't at all until Vilma and Vitt got back. Maybe that locker room chatter about him not wanting to adjust is dead on. I'm all for giving the guy 1 more chance under Sean Payton but not at the exspense of wasting another prime time Drew Brees year.

I'm no longer upset...
I'm ready for next year...
I still hate Atlanta...
All is well in my life!

Originally Posted by nutria:
"What can we get on defense in a trade for Drew Brees?"
Jamessr is offline  
Old 01-08-2013, 08:29 AM   #15
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 18,978
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

As he should hold him self accountable:

He should have make the receivers catch the ball: All on him.. He throws too hard.

He should have prevented all of his sacks and being rushed: Your a QB Drew, make the receivers open and throw them the ball.

He should have made the defense tackle: All on him, if he completed all of his selfish passes that were only thrown to make his stats better the defense wouldn't have been on the field as much.

He should have prevented the defense from being the worst in history: Had Drew gained less yardage the opposing team would have needed to gain less yardage to score.

He should have coached the Special teams better: Its Drews fault so many punts and Kickoffs were 20+ yard returns.

He should have not abandoned the running game: Drew should have prevented all of the passing plays from being called from the sidelines.

He should have prevented all of the 2012 drama: As the leader of the team it was his job to stop Greg Williams and the Defense from doing anything they were not supposed to do.

He should have prevented him sitting out the off season: Drew was selfish in putting his family before the team. How dare Drew try and make the most money he possible can for his family. Dirt bag.

He should have prevented all of the interceptions: As QB Drew should have not thrown balls to receivers that were covered. He should have not thrown balls to receivers that were not going to catch them.

He should have prevented Hartley from missing Field Goals: Had you just been able to get 1st downs Hartley would have never had to miss any field goals.


Had Drew done the right things this season, accept any contract the Saints wanted to give him, throw only touch downs, refuse to pass more than 55% of the time, been the leader for Offense/Defense/Special teams... This season would have been a success.

Drew I hope you are traded because all you have brought to the Saints is your "me first" attitude, and drama. The New Orleans Saints have been held back by you for seven seasons... New Orleans didn't need your positive attitude and support rebuilding after Katrina and those charities didn't need all the money you gave. We would have been better off if you had gone to Miami.
pherein likes this.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau
TheOak is offline  
Old 01-08-2013, 09:05 AM   #16
E. Side Cholo
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The Barrio, H-town
Posts: 6,089
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

the other players have families too.
dont pull the family card.
child please.
skymike is offline  
Old 01-08-2013, 09:12 AM   #17
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 18,978
Originally Posted by skymike View Post
the other players have families too.
dont pull the family card.
child please.
Their contracts were done. No food was taken out of their mouths.
TheOak is offline  
Old 01-08-2013, 02:34 PM   #18
xan
Professor Crab and
Site Donor 2014
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Princeton
Posts: 3,355
Blog Entries: 34
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

I will stipulate that there were many problems on the team.

However,

Brees had full authority and license to call plays and/or change plays at the line. Some of the "abandoning the run" falls to him, as does misreading defenses and calling plays that fail.

15 of 19 interceptions were his bad throws or bad decisions, the others bad luck. The 4 pick-6s were all unforced errors, and each were fatal in those games.

Not that QBR is the end-all of performance metrics, but:

2011 - 1 game under 50, 3 total games under 70 (2 of 3 losses), averaging 84.0 (2nd)
2012 - 7 games under 50 (all losses), averaging 67.9 (9th)

Pretty clear, if he doesn't play like the highest paid player in the league, Saints don't win. For almost half the season, he didn't crack the top 25 best QBs.

You sink that much resource into one guy, he better deliver, no excuses.
UK_WhoDat and dizzle88 like this.

Calvin: "I wish I was a Tiger."
Hobbes: "Common lament."
xan is offline  
Old 01-09-2013, 06:39 AM   #19
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 18,978
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

Originally Posted by xan View Post
I will stipulate that there were many problems on the team.

However,

Brees had full authority and license to call plays and/or change plays at the line. Some of the "abandoning the run" falls to him, as does misreading defenses and calling plays that fail.

15 of 19 interceptions were his bad throws or bad decisions, the others bad luck. The 4 pick-6s were all unforced errors, and each were fatal in those games.

Not that QBR is the end-all of performance metrics, but:

2011 - 1 game under 50, 3 total games under 70 (2 of 3 losses), averaging 84.0 (2nd)
2012 - 7 games under 50 (all losses), averaging 67.9 (9th)

Pretty clear, if he doesn't play like the highest paid player in the league, Saints don't win. For almost half the season, he didn't crack the top 25 best QBs.

You sink that much resource into one guy, he better deliver, no excuses.
Erm... No
TheOak is offline  
Old 01-09-2013, 07:00 AM   #20
Deuce
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,894
Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

More money for the QB means less money for the OL. Less money for the OL means less protection for the QB. Less protection for the QB means more INT's for the other team.

It's all very simple...really.
skymike, pherein and AlaskaSaints like this.
Saint_LB is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/54345-brees-holds-himself-accountable-up-down-2012-a.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012 This thread Refback 01-05-2013 01:35 PM 1
The Latest New Orleans Saints News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 01-05-2013 11:18 AM 1


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:16 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts