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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I agree with Drew. The team had a lot of problems this season. He was one of them. Drew you win as a team, and you get screwed as a team. It was Roger Goodell fault....

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:43 PM   #11
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I agree with Drew. The team had a lot of problems this season. He was one of them.
Drew you win as a team, and you get screwed as a team. It was Roger Goodell fault.
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Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

Overall, he mostly did enough to win most games even with the INTs.
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Drew you win as a team, and you get screwed as a team. ....
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Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

As much as I blamed drew for boneheaded interceptions he threw this year the defense is the main reason we're at home and not in the play offs. Every game we played except for maybe 2 we had to score 21+ to just stay in it...
Of course you're going to throw because you feel you must score on every drive. Its been said before had we had an average defense we would have been ok.
I still blame Sprags 100% for not evaulating his players in the 5 Preseason games. If you're guys are not getting the new scheme you as a former head coach and the defesive coordinator must adjust and he didn't at all until Vilma and Vitt got back. Maybe that locker room chatter about him not wanting to adjust is dead on. I'm all for giving the guy 1 more chance under Sean Payton but not at the exspense of wasting another prime time Drew Brees year.

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Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

As he should hold him self accountable:

He should have make the receivers catch the ball: All on him.. He throws too hard.

He should have prevented all of his sacks and being rushed: Your a QB Drew, make the receivers open and throw them the ball.

He should have made the defense tackle: All on him, if he completed all of his selfish passes that were only thrown to make his stats better the defense wouldn't have been on the field as much.

He should have prevented the defense from being the worst in history: Had Drew gained less yardage the opposing team would have needed to gain less yardage to score.

He should have coached the Special teams better: Its Drews fault so many punts and Kickoffs were 20+ yard returns.

He should have not abandoned the running game: Drew should have prevented all of the passing plays from being called from the sidelines.

He should have prevented all of the 2012 drama: As the leader of the team it was his job to stop Greg Williams and the Defense from doing anything they were not supposed to do.

He should have prevented him sitting out the off season: Drew was selfish in putting his family before the team. How dare Drew try and make the most money he possible can for his family. Dirt bag.

He should have prevented all of the interceptions: As QB Drew should have not thrown balls to receivers that were covered. He should have not thrown balls to receivers that were not going to catch them.

He should have prevented Hartley from missing Field Goals: Had you just been able to get 1st downs Hartley would have never had to miss any field goals.


Had Drew done the right things this season, accept any contract the Saints wanted to give him, throw only touch downs, refuse to pass more than 55% of the time, been the leader for Offense/Defense/Special teams... This season would have been a success.

Drew I hope you are traded because all you have brought to the Saints is your "me first" attitude, and drama. The New Orleans Saints have been held back by you for seven seasons... New Orleans didn't need your positive attitude and support rebuilding after Katrina and those charities didn't need all the money you gave. We would have been better off if you had gone to Miami.
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Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

the other players have families too.
dont pull the family card.
child please.
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the other players have families too.
dont pull the family card.
child please.
Their contracts were done. No food was taken out of their mouths.
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Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

I will stipulate that there were many problems on the team.

However,

Brees had full authority and license to call plays and/or change plays at the line. Some of the "abandoning the run" falls to him, as does misreading defenses and calling plays that fail.

15 of 19 interceptions were his bad throws or bad decisions, the others bad luck. The 4 pick-6s were all unforced errors, and each were fatal in those games.

Not that QBR is the end-all of performance metrics, but:

2011 - 1 game under 50, 3 total games under 70 (2 of 3 losses), averaging 84.0 (2nd)
2012 - 7 games under 50 (all losses), averaging 67.9 (9th)

Pretty clear, if he doesn't play like the highest paid player in the league, Saints don't win. For almost half the season, he didn't crack the top 25 best QBs.

You sink that much resource into one guy, he better deliver, no excuses.
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I will stipulate that there were many problems on the team.

However,

Brees had full authority and license to call plays and/or change plays at the line. Some of the "abandoning the run" falls to him, as does misreading defenses and calling plays that fail.

15 of 19 interceptions were his bad throws or bad decisions, the others bad luck. The 4 pick-6s were all unforced errors, and each were fatal in those games.

Not that QBR is the end-all of performance metrics, but:

2011 - 1 game under 50, 3 total games under 70 (2 of 3 losses), averaging 84.0 (2nd)
2012 - 7 games under 50 (all losses), averaging 67.9 (9th)

Pretty clear, if he doesn't play like the highest paid player in the league, Saints don't win. For almost half the season, he didn't crack the top 25 best QBs.

You sink that much resource into one guy, he better deliver, no excuses.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:00 AM   #20
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Re: Brees holds himself accountable for up-and-down 2012

More money for the QB means less money for the OL. Less money for the OL means less protection for the QB. Less protection for the QB means more INT's for the other team.

It's all very simple...really.
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