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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Criticism is ok your going to get that win or lose but to say he is the lone reason we're not playing for a ring right now is nonsense...our offense was ranked 4th our defense 32nd ...

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Old 01-10-2013, 03:43 AM   #11
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Re: QB Drew Brees Agitated Saints Will Miss Home Super Bowl

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Criticism is ok your going to get that win or lose but to say he is the lone reason we're not playing for a ring right now is nonsense...our offense was ranked 4th our defense 32nd IMO!
Agreed. I am assuming, though, that because this was an article about Brees, that is probably why the original poster made that comment. I took it as a jab. I think we all understand that our defense was horrible, and the coaching wasn't exactly stellar, either. Plus tons of drops.

Given that our defense is almost always bad, it puts the onus on Drew and the boys to protect the ball and maximize their scoring opportunities. We scored some points this year, but a lot more were left out there. The criticism is just. As long as you make sure to mention the other problems, I agree.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: QB Drew Brees Agitated Saints Will Miss Home Super Bowl

... it is what it is, ain't like there'll never be another SuperBowl in New Orleans ... just gotta' prepare for next time, eh? .
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:20 AM   #13
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There were some close games we could have won if not for the offense and Brees. Of course our defense sucks but this was not a typical Brees performance for the year whatever the reason he was part of the failure.
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Nice try, except none of those things have ever happened. Way to be realistic... 20 INT's speak for themselves. All you guys who can't stand to see a little criticism of Brees need to get a hold of yourselves, IMO.

You do the very thing you accuse everyone else of doing. Overreact. Saying a guy had a down year, is not the same thing as saying he's the worst ever.
No saying he had a down and constantly harping on the most negative thing you can think of at every single mention of the man's name are two different things. He doesn't deserve that.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:32 PM   #15
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I can hear it now.....

Dateline 2022 -Drew Brees is a first ballot Hall of Famer!
Maybe if he hadn't thrown so many ints in 2012 he would have made it in four years.

Drew Brees leads Saints to second undefeated season while throwing for 7000 yards and 65 TDs.
But he threw 11 ints! And he makes too much money! Now we can't get that FA LB I want.

Drew Brees discovers the cure for cancer.
Remember that time he threw five ints against the Falcons.
Interceptions are the cure for cancer?
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:42 PM   #16
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Re: QB Drew Brees Agitated Saints Will Miss Home Super Bowl

Some peoples "Criticism" is the equivalent of someone not being promoted because they didn't double side print back in 2011...

Any way.... How about this in regards to criticism of any one.. Drew, the Defense, the offense, the receivers, the corner backs, the coaches, running backs..... Say something new that hasn't been said buy YOU a hundred times already.


Its not the criticism that bothers everyone else its the Broken Record that comes on the juke box no matter what bar I am in...


For the younger people: The broken record analogy is used because back before you can remember there were round vinyl disks with groves and lumps in them that when put on a record player (phonograph) would produce music. If there was a scratch in the vinyl what would be heard was a repeat of what was in one specific grove as the needle from the record player would track right back to it continuously.

Here is an example:

"Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go""Let it go"
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:57 PM   #17
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There were some close games we could have won if not for the offense and Brees. Of course our defense sucks but this was not a typical Brees performance for the year whatever the reason he was part of the failure.
You're right, he had some bad games and they cost us probably 2 wins this year. On the other hand without him playing like the superstar he is in most of the games we definitely wouldn't have won 7. Dropped passes also cost us at least two games this year.

How many of those interceptions happened because Brees had to throw passes he wouldn't have unless he felt like he had to score every time we had the ball? How many of them were forced because no one was open? We scored 29 pts per game and still lost 9 games. Think about the implications of that fact. What do think that does to a QBs decision process? Knowing the 30 points a game isn't enough to win means you're going to have to take some chances you'd rather not have to make.

Criticism is one thing, haterade is a whole different thing and that's what I find repulsive.
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We scored 29 pts per game and still lost 9 games. Think about the implications of that fact.
Here are the results... In Stats so people can draw conclusions from fact and not fiction.

Sorry anyone, I can not fault our offense or anyone on the offense... Know why I have come to that conclusion?

Out of the TOP 12 teams in scoring we are 3rd and the ONLY team that didn't make the playoffs. ALL other 11 top scoring teams made it. Our offense in its ENTIRETY played playoff caliber ball.

NFL Stats: by Team Category


Defense 2nd to last in points allowed.
NFL Stats: by Team Category


Portions of our offense are blamed? BS! I don't care if Drew threw 50 interceptions, when your offense is 3rd in the league in scoring and you don't make the playoffs, its not lack of scoring that kept you out of the playoffs, its failure to stop other teams from scoring that kept you out of the playoffs..

Yes it is that simple victory in the NFL is determined by the differential of points scored vs points allowed. It doesn't matter whether you pass, run, punt, intercept.. Its all Point differential.

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Old 01-10-2013, 04:51 PM   #19
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Re: QB Drew Brees Agitated Saints Will Miss Home Super Bowl

to add to the above stats which i like, anyone consider what we could have scored without the drops we had. possibly shooting up the ladder of scoring.
just saying.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:04 PM   #20
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Re: QB Drew Brees Agitated Saints Will Miss Home Super Bowl

If a "down" year is 43 TD's, 19 INT's, 5177 YD's, 96.3 rating, 63% completions; I'll take it. What other QB would you want?
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