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WhoDat!656 01-26-2013 09:53 PM

Sean Payton does not promise 10-12 wins as New Orleans Saints rebuild
 
“There’s no promise of us being an 11- or 12-win team just because the head coach is back,” Payton said. ”Look, if we don’t get certain things corrected, we could end up being a five-win team. So we’ve got a lot of things we’ve gotta do better.”

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QBREES9 01-26-2013 10:05 PM

Re: Sean Payton does not promise 10-12 wins as New Orleans Saints rebuild
 
Were rebuilding ?

triman 01-26-2013 10:20 PM

Re: Sean Payton does not promise 10-12 wins as New Orleans Saints rebuild
 
. Anytime you change coaches and schemes you're rebuilding. Fixing this D is going to be tough. Getting the players and learning.the scheme,geling together is a tall order. The silver lining is we can be middling and with our offense stay in the hunt

|Mitch| 01-26-2013 10:28 PM

Re: Sean Payton does not promise 10-12 wins as New Orleans Saints rebuild
 
we win 7 games with 2 different interim coaches and the worst defense we ever had...

I'm thinking with a competent defensive coordinator + Payton and we easily win 10+ games...

OldMaid 01-26-2013 10:35 PM

Re: Sean Payton does not promise 10-12 wins as New Orleans Saints rebuild
 
I don't want to put or hear about a particular number.
If we must, 9-7 . I am not being cynical.
SP coming back. His team has holes. New DF coach coming on board.
Saints will lose some games.
Saitns will win some games.
The lost games, ok, if there are factors such as both sides working. Good plays.
Pitiful loses are frustrating. No excuse for missing ,lets say, blocks, tackles. No man-to-man.

Vrillon82 01-27-2013 12:36 AM

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I dont think Spags was incompetent, I think the talent on D sucks ballz for anything to really work, its really no wonder why Gregg Williams blitzed so much.

|Mitch| 01-27-2013 12:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 475560)
I dont think Spags was incompetent, I think the talent on D sucks ballz for anything to really work, its really no wonder why Gregg Williams blitzed so much.

He wasn't smart enough to alter his defense and make it work with the players...

At some point you gotta say: "Hey! This isn't working, let me try something a little different"

Crusader 01-27-2013 03:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 475540)
we win 7 games with 2 different interim coaches and the worst defense we ever had...

I'm thinking with a competent defensive coordinator + Payton and we easily win 10+ games...

While I like your thinking its seldom that easy.

xan 01-27-2013 07:45 AM

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Given the cap issues and the personnel fit issues, not to mention the brutal schedule next season, who would want to set ANY level of expectation?

Seer1 01-27-2013 08:31 AM

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And Sean is spot-on. If the D isn't fixed (not to mention some adjustments in actually catching the damned ball), we will be looking at another short season next year.

saintsfan403 01-27-2013 12:14 PM

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Yes, we're rebuilding the defence.

saintfan 01-27-2013 12:53 PM

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I think you're all ****ed in the head. We're probably a few days from a new defense and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer an off season. It's a quest. It's a quest for good defense. You're gonna have a good defense, and I'm gonna have a good defense... We're all gonna have such a good defense we're gonna need plastic surgery to remove our goddamn smiles! You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're *******s! I must be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to get a good defense. Praise Sean Payton! Holy ****!

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UK_WhoDat 01-27-2013 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 475540)
we win 7 games with 2 different interim coaches and the worst defense we ever had...

I'm thinking with a competent defensive coordinator + Payton and we easily win 10+ games...

Too bloody right. Otherwise we will question the value of a head coach. Bizarrely from a completely different angle.

Rugby Saint II 01-27-2013 01:35 PM

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I'm following your plan coach.

TheOak 01-27-2013 03:34 PM

I thought about starting a thread 20 times but never did. Especially on the heals of all of the Payton will fix everything replays.

Do NOT misinterpret this reply. However, Sean Payton is still the coach that lost to Seattle in the playoffs in 2010, St. Louis Rams in 2011... No one was cheering him after those games.

As I said. Do not misrepresent this reply, I wouldn't have another coach. However, he is not infallible as a Head Coach for the Saints and no miracles will happen.

He has been with the Saints for six seasons and is only one season away from having a .500 winning season record.

His comment is meant to keep things into perspective.

st thomas 01-27-2013 03:43 PM

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You know John Wanye never ever came out and said that he would just destroy the competition . He always downplayed the senereo. Like were going get killed before we cross the indian territory. But then he always came out on top.

saintsfan1976 01-27-2013 07:40 PM

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6-0 in the NFC South

WillSaints81 01-27-2013 10:01 PM

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History gives us edge against jets, bills, cards, and at least either Seattle or St.Louis on the road we should beat. The division games I'm expecting at least 4-2(we got swept by Carolina last year and I believe the every other sweep with falcons continue) Also NE, I'm not sold on Brady able to outduel Brees especially if we get them week 6 or 7. And tbh Miami has given us problems but the game is in NO. Thats at least 10 wins with the games against Dallas, NE and San Francisco pending and I think we beat one or two of them.

If any team wins division other than us, its Carolina as they have axes to grind with TB and are due for a sweep of Atl and if they go to Atl last game of season, they get first meeting at home. They could get the sweep. I look at Atlanta's schedule and they are heading straight for a week 1 match in SF, and likely will have NE, GB, NO first half as well as those are too appealing for second half. Atl could lose all four of those games. I believe SF, us, and GB will be losses and because its at home NE could go either way but no Gonzo and pats having two tightends point to NE winning as it is a weakness of the falcons that many offenses didnt figure out. So I can see Atlanta getting off to a 4-4 start and possibly 3-5 if they go to Car or TB in the first half. It will set in to keep them from 11 wins at least.

alleycat_126 01-27-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 475530)
Were rebuilding ?

We are retooling, but no promises!!!! It's smart. If it doesn't work out...... He told you upfront that this could happen. If he gets us back in the playoff hunt he looks like the genius that we know he is......

SloMotion 01-28-2013 06:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 475686)
You know John Wanye never ever came out and said that he would just destroy the competition . He always downplayed the senereo. Like were going get killed before we cross the indian territory. But then he always came out on top.

Great analogy. I think that's exactly what Payton is doing. Prepare the fanbase for the worst case scenario, then busting his ass to win it all!

He'll git 'er done. :mrgreen:.

TheOak 01-28-2013 08:41 AM

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Does Sean Payton look like Rex Ryan to you????

Danno 01-28-2013 08:48 AM

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Rebuilding implies you had something there to start with. :p

We're building a defense. It would be virtually impossible to be worse than last year.

Barring one key injury, I can see 10 wins easily.

hagan714 01-28-2013 09:51 AM

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SP does not promise anything ever thats why i like him. let the play on the field do the talking

Mardigras9 01-28-2013 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 475626)
Yes, we're rebuilding the defence.

Without question.

WillSaints81 01-29-2013 03:25 AM

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Payton hasnt promised 10-12 wins, but Brees has actually went on record promising a bounce back season. And when teams have rebuilded in the past if they had a good offense they made playoffs the first season. Rebuilding isnt years of progress anymore.

Crusader 01-29-2013 08:39 AM

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Lets get in that underdog mode again, thats when we seem to thrive.

Vrillon82 01-29-2013 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 476113)
Payton hasnt promised 10-12 wins, but Brees has actually went on record promising a bounce back season. And when teams have rebuilded in the past if they had a good offense they made playoffs the first season. Rebuilding isnt years of progress anymore.

Rebuilding is almost instant in some cases, 2005 Saints to the 2006 Saints, 3 wins to 10 wins in which 70% of the roster was gutted.

jeanpierre 01-29-2013 06:51 PM

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Unless we start having stud drafts and the Special Teams Coach McMahon to get his schiott together, Coach Payton is gonna really have to earn that contract...

vpheughan 01-31-2013 03:19 PM

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The draft will be interesting. All the picks should be on defense.

st thomas 01-31-2013 04:35 PM

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pherein 01-31-2013 06:26 PM

Re: Sean Payton does not promise 10-12 wins as New Orleans Saints rebuild
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 475543)
I don't want to put or hear about a particular number.
If we must, 9-7 . I am not being cynical.

If we only have 9 or less wins, Goodell is going to be finning Payton $250,000 on mutiple games for the people he murders on the sidelines, like he did Ray lewis. Luckly he wont be suspended though. 😏

Payton has always down played our season, and elevated any team we are going to play next. All I know is, we are in a WAY better position than 2005, when he took over, and ended up in the NFCC that year. I like that he down plays things, and respects other teams, but very much doubt SP will ever fail as a coach.


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