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Old 01-30-2013, 11:52 AM   #21
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Re: Adderley: Brees ‘greedy’ and ‘misinformed’

Originally Posted by xan View Post
Again, not taking sides, just pointing out that the conditions of segregation, wage discrimination, no freedom of labor competition, and the unwillingness of owners to invest in technologies that would mitigate injury are not present in the current system.

A more apt equivalency would be coal workers who worked in despicable conditions and poor wages, limited to no pension, and who suffered later in life, should have planned better for their unforseen catastrophic issues that nearly all faced.

Sure, they all could have been investment bankers, or they all could have chosen to be born in a period of history that recognized the real risks and opportunity costs.



I hope you aren't planning to take your social security, (a third of what you deserve based on what you contributed) or medicare (less than one tenth). "Society" picking up the tab for your inability to save or plan is probably abhorent to you. I will alert the Treasury to be on the lookout for your check.
I'm assuming that Social Security and Medicare will be long extinct by the time I'm eligible. I don't consider either in my retirement planning.... but thanks for the tip.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:05 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by NuNu318 View Post
IMO....I feel like some of these former players are just looking for a reason to be bitter. Brees' statement said SOME not ALL players squandered their money. and he feels like the new generation shouldnt have to come out of their pockets because of the older generation's mistakes. I don't see how that particular logic is flawed. If some of these guys feel like Brees is attacking them or being greedy or disrespectful...obviously they in part are in that SOME category and it struck a chord.

The continued bashing of Drew Brees is unwarrented IMO. He's telling the truth. The only guys, to me, that should be getting any kind of extra money are the guys that have onging physical issues because of their time in the NFL. And that should come from the NFL themselves, not from current players.

But its whatever....let these guys bash Brees in the media...its not gonna stop him from getting paid or making contributions to his community. All of it is just bitterness. These guys lived and played during a time where society and economy didn't dictate that they could possibly get paid millions. Its not the current players fault that the economy, society, and NFL changed to this point. And anyone of these guys complaining that they have no money and want the current players to come out of their pocket is a hypocrite....cuz they would be reluctant come out of their pocket if they were in the same situations.
In regards to striking a chord... Brees made that statement in 2011 correct?

Adderley it would seem has held on to that anger for nearly two years. Why wait two years? Why in the fk would Russo want to bring this up now?
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I wish Drew would quit wading into these issues but he has a point. Players retired and tried to keep living like they were still playing and simply ran out of money. Now they're trying to say that today's players should be picking up the tab on their lifestyle.
Maybe that is what the old players are hoping for and maybe not. It is hard to say. I do wish Drew would collect his millions and shhh.
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Originally Posted by xan View Post
Again, not taking sides, just pointing out that the conditions of segregation, wage discrimination, no freedom of labor competition, and the unwillingness of owners to invest in technologies that would mitigate injury are not present in the current system.

A more apt equivalency would be coal workers who worked in despicable conditions and poor wages, limited to no pension, and who suffered later in life, should have planned better for their unforseen catastrophic issues that nearly all faced.

Sure, they all could have been investment bankers, or they all could have chosen to be born in a period of history that recognized the real risks and opportunity costs.



I hope you aren't planning to take your social security, (a third of what you deserve based on what you contributed) or medicare (less than one tenth). "Society" picking up the tab for your inability to save or plan is probably abhorent to you. I will alert the Treasury to be on the lookout for your check.
I get it... Adderley is angry because of the way things were back then.

I seriously doubt Drew's example had to go back to find someone 73 years old for fitting examples.

He probably only had to go back to yesterdays Terrell Owens or Mike Vick.

Adderley probably deserves some assistance, I do not know his story. TO deserves nada.. I know his story. However TO would benefit.

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Whatever, sounds like most Obama supporters.
Unnecessary comment.
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Didn't these guys go to college? Don't they have a degree?
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Originally Posted by Jamessr View Post
I wish I could make 5x the average house income for 9 years. Some folks barely make now what he made in 1972!
I make nowhere close to $50 000 today but I still think Mr Adderly is more right than wrong on this matter.
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If he played now, he would want to get paid as much as possible and might feel the same way. Pot meet kettle and while he's at it st*u
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In today's dollars, his peak year earning (1972) was [(229.6/41.8)*$50K)] $274,600. Minimum wage in 2012 was $380,000.
I know... $275,000 a year today is such a slave wage... with the average salary of today's Joe Schmoe being a whooping $40,000... oh, wait.

... so Mr Adderley got a 1 time payment of $50,000 dlls, his biggest payday. He could have gone out and bought himself a brand new Cadillac Fleetwood 75 and still have $40,000 (which is 4 times what the average American made in 1972), or instead of buying the new Cadi, put those $10,000 into a CD or just aside in a plain old savings account to pay for her daughter's college. I am going to take a wild guess as to which one Mr Adderley chose.

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The article should have ended like this.....

"Adderley, who just divorced his 4th wife and filed for bankruptcy, is known for investing all his assets in Pets.com and the GoodTree search engine in 1999 at the end of the internet boon...."
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