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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Oh I agree that all 3 will have to re-structure or "bye-bye". Its just no gonna save us nearly as much as their 2013 cap hit suggests. I'm a Harper fan, but no way he's worth ...

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Old 02-06-2013, 05:31 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Oh I agree that all 3 will have to re-structure or "bye-bye". Its just no gonna save us nearly as much as their 2013 cap hit suggests.

I'm a Harper fan, but no way he's worth that kind of cash. No safety in this league is worth that. Donte Whitner was absolutely schooled in the Superbowl. He couldn't cover squat.

He looked every bit as bad as Harper/Jenkins and he's widely considered one of the best in the NFL

Torching DB's is just the current state of the pass-happy NFL now. The best secondary in all of the NFL was torched in the playoffs by Matt Friggin Ryan.

I'm not sure there's much difference between an A-Plus safety and a C-Plus safety anymore. So why pay A-plus money for one?
In essence they have become commoditized like RBs. No body wants to pay big money for RBs because they get hurt and with the way the game has changed they don't get the value out of dbacks.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:59 PM   #22
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Re: Time to start releasing players?

I would let Ellis, Smith and Harper go.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:03 PM   #23
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I would let Ellis, Smith and Harper go.
Ellis is a free agent, we just won't resign him...
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:47 PM   #24
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Thanks Mitch I didn't know that.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:36 AM   #25
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Re: Time to start releasing players?

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Signing bonus money accellerates to the year you cut them. It can no longer be spread over the life of the contract once you terminate the contract.

Cutting Will Smith only saves 7 million, not 14.
Cutting Vilma only saves 6 million, not 8.6.
Cutting Harper only saves 4 million, not 7.
Cutting Hartley only saves 1.1 million, not 2.6

And then you have to add the cost to replace those players.
In regards to Vilma, he's already been replaced by Lofton. Replacing him as an outside backer probably won't be that hard, especially with the shift to a 34.
Having a better pass rush would also help out harper, so maybe keep him around for another season to see if he improves?
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:44 AM   #26
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We need to stop keeping players one more season to see if they have improve.

Neither Smith or Vilma has had a flat or up season in the last two years. We are not going to get better keeping declining players for one more year.
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Re: Time to start releasing players?

Originally Posted by saintsfan403 View Post
In regards to Vilma, he's already been replaced by Lofton. Replacing him as an outside backer probably won't be that hard, especially with the shift to a 34.
Having a better pass rush would also help out harper, so maybe keep him around for another season to see if he improves?
micky has his work cut out for himself this off season
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micky has his work cut out for himself this off season
That he does my friend.....that he does. Again!
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Re: Time to start releasing players?

Also, from another thread I learned that 3 days after the Superbowl is a key date for many NFL players since thats when some bonus money clauses kick in.

Not sure if any of ours are tied to that date tho.
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
We need to stop keeping players one more season to see if they have improve.

Neither Smith or Vilma has had a flat or up season in the last two years. We are not going to get better keeping declining players for one more year.
I completely agree with you.
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