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WhoDat!656 02-07-2013 09:43 PM

The backup QB carousel about to turn
 
Atlanta’s Luke McCown, Carolina’s Derek Anderson and New Orleans’ Chase Daniel all can become unrestricted free agents. I’d say the chances Anderson moves on are very high.

I think the Saints would like to keep Daniel as Drew Brees’ backup. The chances of that happening are pretty good. But the Saints don’t have the cap room to pay Daniel much. I think there’s at least a chance that another team could make an attempt to get a guy that has been the understudy to one of the league’s top quarterbacks. I don’t think there are teams out there that view Daniel as a potential starter. But I think there are teams that have more cap room than the Saints and they might be willing to pay Daniel good backup money.

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lumm0x 02-07-2013 10:44 PM

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Chase Daniel's value is greater to us than anyone else. I think he stays.

QBREES9 02-07-2013 11:03 PM

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You're right LummOx

The Dude 02-07-2013 11:06 PM

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I could take Chase or leave him. He has done nothing to show me he is a capable starter in this league. This theory that he will automatically be good because he has sat behind Brees is garbage. Yea it worked for Rodgers, but Rodgers was a better QB coming into the NFL and was first round talent. Chase is going to be too old himself to take over when Brees finally hangs them up. If Brees goes down we are screwed anyway no matter who is backing him up, so we might as well just put any warm body back there and draft a QB in a year or two. Im sure as hell not wanting to give Chase a raise, or even market value in a contract when we can probably pick up another backup that is just as serviceable cheaper.

RockyMountainSaint 02-08-2013 02:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 478360)
I could take Chase or leave him. He has done nothing to show me he is a capable starter in this league. This theory that he will automatically be good because he has sat behind Brees is garbage. Yea it worked for Rodgers, but Rodgers was a better QB coming into the NFL and was first round talent. Chase is going to be too old himself to take over when Brees finally hangs them up. If Brees goes down we are screwed anyway no matter who is backing him up, so we might as well just put any warm body back there and draft a QB in a year or two. Im sure as hell not wanting to give Chase a raise, or even market value in a contract when we can probably pick up another backup that is just as serviceable cheaper.

Why not have you or I "holding the clipboard" then.

Bad day Dude?

I thought that "The Dude Abides."

Seer1 02-08-2013 06:56 AM

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McClown's name coming up again? Really? Is Chase worse than Anderson? Really? With what's out there, the only way we could change him out would be by wasting a draft pick.

xan 02-08-2013 07:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 478360)
I could take Chase or leave him. He has done nothing to show me he is a capable starter in this league. This theory that he will automatically be good because he has sat behind Brees is garbage. Yea it worked for Rodgers, but Rodgers was a better QB coming into the NFL and was first round talent. Chase is going to be too old himself to take over when Brees finally hangs them up. If Brees goes down we are screwed anyway no matter who is backing him up, so we might as well just put any warm body back there and draft a QB in a year or two. Im sure as hell not wanting to give Chase a raise, or even market value in a contract when we can probably pick up another backup that is just as serviceable cheaper.

I'm sure your set of data is complete for this assessment. Having the opportunity to throw 9 passes in 3 years and taking about 30 non v-formation snaps is usually the maximum for evaluative purposes. Frankly, he should have been cut two years ago.

Budsdrinker 02-08-2013 07:09 AM

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With all the teams needing a QB such KC, Arizona, Buffalo, Jets and Eagles I can see someone else signing Chase to compete for starting job. Someone will pay him 2 million which is more than what we pay him now.

TheOak 02-08-2013 07:11 AM

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Lets come to terms with a few things. Some of which will be decided in the next few months.

1. Is Chase ready to start and complete a full season if Drew goes down? I do not think so but Chase may be at starter level for another team..

2. Is Chase going to be the man to fill the Starting spot for the New Orleans Saints when Drew retires (assumed 4 years for the sake of argument).. No, Chase will be in his 7th year in the NFL and there is much better starting talent to be had.

So why would we give him a pay raise to never start? Do we want a 1m+ clip board holder? We are against the cap and can not afford millions on a BU QB.

My prediction is someone offers him a few million to start for them, and he never wears a Saints jersey again. Same route as Jake Delhomme.

Jamessr 02-08-2013 07:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 478360)
He has done nothing to show me he is a capable starter in this league.

In all fairness when has he ever played? You can't judge the guy off of preseason or 1-4 victory formation snaps.

Chase Daniels reminds me of one of those guys that if we loose him to another team he will do great things. Just the way i see it

Danno 02-08-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 478399)
In all fairness when has he ever played? You can't judge the guy off of preseason or 1-4 victory formation snaps.

Chase Daniel (no s) reminds me of one of those guys that if we loose him to another team he will do great things. Just the way i see it

I agree. Impossible to tell how he'd do because the opportunity has not presented itself.

None of us see him at practice or in team meetings so none of us know.

halloween 65 02-08-2013 08:51 AM

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Draft one for the future, Brees aint' getting any younger, the time is now!! I think we have about a 2 year window.

K Major 02-08-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 478387)
With all the teams needing a QB such KC, Arizona, Buffalo, Jets and Eagles I can see someone else signing Chase to compete for starting job. Someone will pay him 2 million which is more than what we pay him now.

I'm sure Chase is a good guy but I don't think he is capable of becoming an effective starter for the Saints or any other team at this level.

QBREES9 02-08-2013 11:13 AM

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Chase Daniels reminds me of one of those guys that if we loose him to another team he will do great things.

Chase is learning like a guy named Aaron Rogers. Just saying.

Jamessr 02-08-2013 11:20 AM

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Q: Are the Saints drafting a QB this year?
A: is anyone 6' and under?

TheOak 02-08-2013 12:11 PM

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Its not a question of do we cut him... Its a question of do you want to pay him more than he made last year. Which was $1mm


As far as what the front office thinks of Chase Daniels, I think only getting a 1 year contract for 2012 says he is not what they think the future will look like.

jnormand 02-08-2013 12:30 PM

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Everyone! For the love of god! It's Chase Daniel! Not DANIELS! LMFAO!

TheOak 02-08-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 478478)
Everyone! For the love of god! It's Chase Daniel! Not DANIELS! LMFAO!

Chase Daniels

Supertek 02-08-2013 01:14 PM

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I agree no one knows because he hasn't really had a chance to come out. I could see them picking a long shot with some talent in the draft and letting Him go if the costs are high. I would like to see him get a fair shot somewhere else. If you really wanted a shot how would you feel sitting behind Drew Brees knowing you'll never get in there.?

Jamessr 02-08-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 478478)
Everyone! For the love of god! It's Chase Daniel! Not DANIELS! LMFAO!

BFD !!

mapcow 02-08-2013 03:19 PM

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Yeah and any one of you can do better.....stfu

vpheughan 02-08-2013 03:52 PM

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Being a backup to an "elite" QB means nothing. Who stepped into the starting spot when Manning was out?

Jamessr 02-08-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 478522)
Yeah and any one of you can do better.....stfu

^^ hmmm... sounds like an inferior mind trying to express itself

halloween 65 02-08-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 478526)
Being a backup to an "elite" QB means nothing. Who stepped into the starting spot when Manning was out?

Bobby Scott

Seer1 02-08-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 478532)
Bobby Scott

Show off!

Danno 02-08-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 478532)
Bobby Scott

Old fart.

jnormand 02-09-2013 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 478497)
BFD !!

Eh...probably right....just a back up QB. Chase Daniels it is.

TheOak 02-09-2013 05:09 AM

I'm having a difficult time remembering how it is spelled on the back of his jersey for "some reason".

RockyMountainSaint 02-09-2013 01:29 PM

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Chase is fast and quick.
Someone will give him a shot at the spread/read option thingy that so many are enamored with right now.

mapcow 02-09-2013 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 478530)
^^ hmmm... sounds like an inferior mind trying

to express itself


:lolup:you're an idiot.... the only offensive minded people that know the N.O. offensive schemes better than Daniel are Sean and Drew....

Daniel is well worth the money and should be kept.... unless the man wants to play for someone else, then keep him.

If Drew is unable to play for whatever reason, Daniel can step in and run the offensive plays 2nd only to Drew.....it ain't rocket science.

Luda34 02-09-2013 08:33 PM

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we better get a good back up because if we let Bushrod go and he's not that good and theres no one to replace him. Than I say we need to draft someone for Brees to groom.

Boutte 02-09-2013 09:06 PM

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We've been real lucky so far in that Brees hasn't missed a game yet. But if he does I'd like some one who knows this system to step in. Chase knows the system better than any one not named Drew.

None of have seen much of him other than in Pre-season playing with guys who are never going to play in the NFL and he's looked decent enough. Why grab some scrub from someone else's garbage heap?

RockyMountainSaint 02-09-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 478806)
we better get a good back up because if we let Bushrod go and he's not that good and theres no one to replace him. Than I say we need to draft someone for Brees to groom.

Guards are valued much higher than tackles on this team.
Keep Drew's vision clean.

TheOak 02-10-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 478764)
:lolup:you're an idiot.... the only offensive minded people that know the N.O. offensive schemes better than Daniel are Sean and Drew....

Daniel is well worth the money and should be kept.... unless the man wants to play for someone else, then keep him.

If Drew is unable to play for whatever reason, Daniel can step in and run the offensive plays 2nd only to Drew.....it ain't rocket science.

To some it seems as graspable. Daniel has not proven to be worth or not worth any dollar amount. The question is not about Daniel's worth. It's do we want to pay ANY clip board holder 1+ million dollars when we has a rough cap year and he is not going to be Drew's replacement because of timing.

Pete is in that list also. You missed one.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

mapcow 02-10-2013 06:57 AM

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Yeah, Pete belongs in the list too. Regardless, when one wants to pay ANY individual, it is about worth. Daniel is worth the money, and who is better than him to take the snap, if Drew can't? nada

Keep the man, pay his value, because of his knowledge of the offenses.... just like Sean, Drew, and Pete...

I live in a brick house.

Rugby Saint II 02-10-2013 04:11 PM

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Daniel won't ever see the field if Drew can help it.

The Dude 02-10-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 478386)
I'm sure your set of data is complete for this assessment. Having the opportunity to throw 9 passes in 3 years and taking about 30 non v-formation snaps is usually the maximum for evaluative purposes. Frankly, he should have been cut two years ago.

Ive seen him in camp several times. When Drew was out he was sailing passes over the heads of the 1st string who weren't even being defended. Consistantly. I saw Colston get visibly frustrated with him, and coming from a quiet guy like Colston that speaks volumes.

mapcow 02-11-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 478809)
We've been real lucky so far in that Brees hasn't missed a game yet. But if he does I'd like some one who knows this system to step in. Chase knows the system better than any one not named Drew.

None of have seen much of him other than in Pre-season playing with guys who are never going to play in the NFL and he's looked decent enough. Why grab some scrub from someone else's garbage heap?

Exactly...:dunce:


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