What did Ryan learn in Dallas?

Rugby Saint II · 02-10-2013, 01:44 PM

God I just hope he can teach them to tackle. We had a lot of big plays against us because of poor tackling. Flopping in front of a ball carrier doesn't usually bring them down......unless they trip!

UK_WhoDat · 02-10-2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

middle of the road defense + #1 rated offense = Legitimate Super-Bowl potential!

You coud have a point.
Baltimore Ravens was 17th ranked defense!

UK_WhoDat · 02-10-2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

God I just hope he can teach them to tackle. We had a lot of big plays against us because of poor tackling. Flopping in front of a ball carrier doesn't usually bring them down......unless they trip!

True Dat.

And then there was positioning, with our unique lets stand off by several yards defense

Danno · 02-10-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

“When we look back at ourselves, reevaluate, I think I started too fast,” Ryan said. “I put in the accelerated program without English 101

AKA Spaggin'

TheOak · 02-11-2013, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it.

I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself.

I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning.

Someone proven.

I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2013, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning.

Someone proven.

I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.

That reminds me of 2007/08 when folks were ready to jettison Sean Payton.

Ryan was a damn good DC in Dallas IMO. He was made the scapegoat by a team that, let's face it, won't be accused of making the most rational decisions.

You wanted an installer - you've got one.

You wanted aggressive - you've got one.

Look all the things that the media is bagging on Ryan for is exactly what his players - his ALPHA MALE players - love and revel about him.

Perfection? No. But I do expect to see a dramatic improvement.

Danno · 02-11-2013, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You wanted an installer - you've got one.

You wanted aggressive - you've got one..

Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2013, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.

Clearly what Payton wants. Why else would he go out and hire "GW Light"?

Jamessr · 02-11-2013, 08:42 AM

I just want a defense good enough to where people are concerned about them.
Our offense will take care of the rest and make it look even worse.
Remember we just need to keep people under 28 points a game. Not hard having the best offense around

saintsfan1976 · 02-11-2013, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Remember we just need to keep people under 28 points a game. Not hard having the best offense around

We need more than that. Pressure sacks, coverage sacks, tackling, interceptions... All these have been glaringly missing from our defense for years.

02-10-2013, 01:44 PM	#11
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? God I just hope he can teach them to tackle. We had a lot of big plays against us because of poor tackling. Flopping in front of a ball carrier doesn't usually bring them down......unless they trip!

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| middle of the road defense + #1 rated offense = Legitimate Super-Bowl potential! You coud have a point. Baltimore Ravens was 17th ranked defense! Jamessr likes this.

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II God I just hope he can teach them to tackle. We had a lot of big plays against us because of poor tackling. Flopping in front of a ball carrier doesn't usually bring them down......unless they trip! True Dat. And then there was positioning, with our unique lets stand off by several yards defense

02-10-2013, 02:53 PM	#14
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 “When we look back at ourselves, reevaluate, I think I started too fast,” Ryan said. “I put in the accelerated program without English 101 AKA Spaggin'

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it. I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself. I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning. Someone proven. I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton.

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02-11-2013, 08:24 AM	#16
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by TheOak I would rather have the guy that has shown he has already learned from his mistakes, and exhibited the result from his learning. Someone proven. I would also rather a guy that can anticipate mistakes happening and take corrective action BEFORE they happen. This is called adjusting on the fly, EG. Sean Payton. That reminds me of 2007/08 when folks were ready to jettison Sean Payton. Ryan was a damn good DC in Dallas IMO. He was made the scapegoat by a team that, let's face it, won't be accused of making the most rational decisions. You wanted an installer - you've got one. You wanted aggressive - you've got one. Look all the things that the media is bagging on Ryan for is exactly what his players - his ALPHA MALE players - love and revel about him. Perfection? No. But I do expect to see a dramatic improvement. UK_WhoDat, Danno and Jamessr like this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You wanted an installer - you've got one. You wanted aggressive - you've got one.. Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go.

02-11-2013, 08:41 AM	#18
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by Danno Spot on. I think this offense is a perfect match for an agressive attacking risk taking defense, and its apparent thats exactly what we're still shooting for. We still need a few playmakers sprinkled in but the roux is ready to go. Clearly what Payton wants. Why else would he go out and hire "GW Light"?

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? I just want a defense good enough to where people are concerned about them. Our offense will take care of the rest and make it look even worse. Remember we just need to keep people under 28 points a game. Not hard having the best offense around

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas? Originally Posted by Jamessr Remember we just need to keep people under 28 points a game. Not hard having the best offense around We need more than that. Pressure sacks, coverage sacks, tackling, interceptions... All these have been glaringly missing from our defense for years.

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