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saintsfan1976 02-09-2013 09:21 AM

What did Ryan learn in Dallas?
 
Something we're likely to see him do in New Orleans.


Rob Ryan thinks he tried to install too much defense, too quickly | ProFootballTalk

Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan blames himself for some of the struggles of the Dallas defense last season, saying that when he got to work after the lockout, he threw the whole defense at his team at once, instead of giving his players the time to slowly pick up the playbook.

Ryan, who was hired by the Cowboys last year, told Ian Rapoport of NFL.com that if he had it to do all over again, hed just introduce basic concepts at first and expand as the season went on.

When we look back at ourselves, reevaluate, I think I started too fast, Ryan said. I put in the accelerated program without English 101, which I always struggled with. You have to have a foundation. . . . Its like getting a tutor. My kid gets a tutor, he gets 90s in math. He doesnt? Forties. We need 90s or 100s.

The Cowboys defense got better with the arrival of Ryan last season, and hes confident that the defense will continue to improve with an offseason of installing the defense the way he wants.

It just takes time to re-teach everything, get the fundamentals, Ryan said. Were going to teach at a slower pace so we can actually learn. We tried to slow it down [in 2011], and it was a little tough for us. I got to look in the mirror, and thats on me. Im a better teacher than that. We come back to square one, and its gonna be great.

TheOak 02-09-2013 09:41 AM

JJ is a sack

TheOak 02-09-2013 09:43 AM

So Rob Ryan himself hit on why I wanted Grantham...

The installation experience.

saintsfan1976 02-09-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 478683)
So Rob Ryan himself hit on why I wanted Grantham...

The installation experience.

Ryan's installed it. Made mistakes. Sounds like he learned from it.

I'd rather have the guy who's ready to prove himself.

SmashMouth 02-09-2013 10:16 AM

Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas?
 
Wade Phillips, now considered a real good DC, started somewhere too. Just how long did it take for him to excel?

hagan714 02-10-2013 12:37 PM

Re: What did Ryan learn in Dallas?
 
welcome to the middle of the road defense at best. how long did we sign a contract for with robbie boy?

WhoDat!656 02-10-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 478890)
welcome to the middle of the road defense at best. how long did we sign a contract for with robbie boy?

Isn't that what we had with GW?

NuNu318 02-10-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 478890)
welcome to the middle of the road defense at best. how long did we sign a contract for with robbie boy?

Middle of the road is a hell of a lot better that historically worst.

I don't get what some of u guys want? People act like there was someone out there that was going to make us the 85 Bears within a 2 years or something. Be real......this is a offensive oriented team...when thats your team's identity all you need is a middle of the road defense. I think this guy has a ****ish personality but people have to compartmentalize and actually look at what this scheme and what he can possibly do for us. This team has shown it responds to fiery guys like GW and Rob. So at the very least for the 1st 2 years your going to get a D that won't play soft like they did under Spags and actually help this team instead of hurt it. They might make mistakes but they'll keep fighting.

Yes he's never took a defense to the playoffs but look at the offenses he had to work with. I know I wasn't on board at first but I'm looking at the positives. Forget his personality, forget what you've heard about him. He's here now...he's a Saint accept it, support and hope for the best. I for one am more excited about the scheme that seems to fit the talent we have and the talent we can get than my feelings for the coordinator. Cuz he hasn't even coached a game for the Saints yet....

|Mitch| 02-10-2013 01:17 PM

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middle of the road defense + #1 rated offense = Legitimate Super-Bowl potential!

K Major 02-10-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 478701)
Wade Phillips, now considered a real good DC, started somewhere too. Just how long did it take for him to excel?

Speaking of Mr. Wade, where in the hell did his defense go the last few weeks of regular season and into the playoffs? Geez...it got ugly.


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