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Saintaintso 02-10-2013 05:11 PM

Percy Harvin ?
 
We have a plethora of RB's to trade , I know they have AP but they're going to run him dry ...

xan 02-10-2013 05:28 PM

Re: Percy Harvin ?
 
Poster child for stress induced headaches. Just what we need, more overpaid unreliable players

Jamessr 02-10-2013 05:39 PM

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Someone remind me why are we worried about offensive players this year?

|Mitch| 02-10-2013 05:41 PM

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Wait a minute...

We had the 31st ranked defense and were in the top 5 on offense, why would we worry about trading for an offensive player?

Jamessr 02-10-2013 05:44 PM

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Oh wait its everyone gets a retarded post Sunday

GeauxForMore 02-10-2013 06:01 PM

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I wouldn't touch him, but we where 7-9 so every position should be scrutinized. I believe Henderson is gone, but we are going to replace him with a guy already on the roster with Nick Toon. He is going to show up in a big way this upcoming season.

RailBoss 02-10-2013 06:07 PM

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If Henderson is gone there may be some interest, I seem to remember
a lot of dropped balls this season.

WhoDat!656 02-10-2013 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 479013)
Oh wait its everyone gets a retarded post Sunday

Retarded is out of line!!

pherein 02-10-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 479020)
If Henderson is gone there may be some interest, I seem to remember
a lot of dropped balls this season.

Morgan, Roby, and Toon (6 4" 220 ) . WR's are not are problem, lol. We have to many accually.

K Major 02-10-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 479024)
Morgan, Roby, and Toon (6 4" 220 ) . WR's are not are problem, lol. We have to many accually.

For a split second, I forgot we even drafted Toon. In the words of Buddy Ryan... "can't help the club when you are in the tub".

Hopefully he can see the field in 2013... such a BIG target for Brees.

D_it_up 02-10-2013 06:59 PM

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We already have Percy Harvin on our team, except he goes by the name Darren Sproles...sans migraines.

FinSaint 02-10-2013 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 479008)
Poster child for stress induced headaches. Just what we need, more overpaid unreliable players


The migraines are no longer an issue for Harvin - he hasn't had "an episode" in something like a year now.

The bigger issue is that Minnesota is not going to trade away Harvin for anything less than a blockbuster trade where they would have to get a quality player in return and some high draft picks. Minnesota has been struggling with having no real quality depth on their receiving corp, and after Harvin went down for the season, Minnesota couldn't really do anything else than run the ball with AP and throw short crossing passes to their TE Rudolph. So, they wouldn't trade away their only explosive receiving threat for any deal that the Saints would find worthwhile to even think about.

lumm0x 02-10-2013 07:10 PM

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No interest at all. Attitude, injuries, inconsistency, etc.

K Major 02-10-2013 07:16 PM

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Yep, absolutely no interest what-so-ever in Percy.

Seer1 02-10-2013 08:11 PM

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Can he play NT?

Danno 02-10-2013 08:36 PM

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Well its not full-retard.

Devery Henderson is likely a goner, and Joe Morgan looks great so far, but he's still real young and developing.

Personally I'm not interested in Harvin, but I do think we'll need another veteran WR before the season starts.

Rell&Gold 02-11-2013 12:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 479008)
Poster child for stress induced headaches. Just what we need, more overpaid unreliable players

Before he hurt his ankle this year he was top three in yards and receptions and he could bring a spark to special teams ...ijs but I dont think we nedd him we still have nick toon and Jo-Mo(Morgan)

Crusader 02-11-2013 01:55 AM

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I'm not rally interested. he is a great player but would be a luxury we couldn't afford. I would not be surprised to see him with the Dolphins this year.

burningmetal 02-11-2013 03:44 AM

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WR isn't a priority this year, but for people who keep talking about how deep we are there, you need to consider that we've had virtually the same core of receivers for about 7 years now. At some point, you gotta reload. Toon has proven nothing, and Roby has never been a part of our offense. He shows some things in pre season, but that's it. I agree with others that Henderson is likely gone.

Joe Morgan has shown great potential, and should take over Devery's role, but Moore and Colston are the only proven guys. Both of them have injury history. If Toon steps up, we're ok. If he doesn't, then I would expect the Saints to bring in another WR next off season.

TheOak 02-11-2013 05:32 AM

Oh frikken hell no!!!!!!

That guy is more poison for a locker room than TO.


Some people always want what someone else has.

burningmetal 02-11-2013 05:46 AM

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If we do go after a receiver next off-season ( I can't imagine them pursuing one this year) I really hope it isn't Harvin. Harvin is really a slot guy, but we use Sproles in the slot when he's not lined up in the backfield. That's just the football reason why I don't want him.

FinSaint 02-11-2013 06:54 AM

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I mean honestly, when Harvin is going full steam, there really aren't many more explosive and versatile offensive weapons in the whole league, and that is as objective as I can be about this debate.

Every single team in the league should want to have him on their roster, and the so-called problems he reportedly invokes in the locker room are very much exaggerated by the media - surprisingly.

subguy 02-11-2013 06:59 AM

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Great Talent...On the sidelines as much as he is on the field...nope

While the O looked decent last year it truly wouldn't hurt to tighten up the receiving corps, just need to look another direction

SaintFanInATLHELL 02-11-2013 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 479003)
We have a plethora of RB's to trade , I know they have AP but they're going to run him dry ...

While we are at it we should go ahead and trade for Peyton Manning, Brady, and Rodgers too. I mean you can't have enough good QBs...

Anyone in the organization that spends even one moment this season on offensive skill players should be summarily dismissed.

SFIAH

papz 02-11-2013 08:45 AM

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I'd trade our second round pick for him in a heart beat.

lee909 02-11-2013 09:09 AM

He is a superb talent but not the right for for me.Id rather get a late draft pick to come in and be ready to challenge in the next year or two.Some interesting late rounders about that with a bit of work could be a steal.

K Major 02-11-2013 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 479122)
I'd trade our second round pick for him in a heart beat.

With all of the holes and needs on defense, to me it just wouldn't make good business sense looking to trade a 2nd round for a WR... especially considering we were LAST in the league and giving up 400+ yards per game on defense.

Wait, we don't have a second rd pick in 2013.

aquaboogie 02-11-2013 10:04 AM

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Outside of Offensive Tackle, We need to spend the little money we have on Defense.

Danno 02-11-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aquaboogie (Post 479138)
Outside of Offensive Tackle, We need to spend the little money we have on Defense.

True, at 20 million over the cap (excluding Bushrod) we have absolutely zero room for luxuries.

Keeping or replacing Bushrod is going to place us around 28 million over the cap.

Oh, and we have to bump de la Puente's salary up several notches as well since he's a restricted free agent.

Lets just say we're at 30 million over. And Jimmy Graham's a free-agent next year.

Bye Bye Vilma, Smith, Harper, Ivory, Henderson, and likely several others shockers we don't see coming.

Mardigras9 02-11-2013 10:12 AM

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Not a priority

Rugby Saint II 02-11-2013 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 479013)
Oh wait its everyone gets a retarded post Sunday

What's up with this James? For a moment I thought I was on Saints report.:confused:

frankeefrank 02-11-2013 11:18 AM

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Whoah, didn't expect this much back lash.
The facts are these: This guy would be our best WR, easily.
And our third best RB.
But landing him will be impossible. We have nothing of value for the Vikings.
Plus, he's apparently a problem child. If this were Madden, I'd make the move in a heartbeat, but if this were Madden, I'd own t-shirts from multiple New Orleans Saints Super Bowl victories and not one.

papz 02-11-2013 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 479129)
With all of the holes and needs on defense, to me it just wouldn't make good business sense looking to trade a 2nd round for a WR... especially considering we were LAST in the league and giving up 400+ yards per game on defense.

Wait, we don't have a second rd pick in 2013.

That was the point.

NinthWardJay 02-11-2013 01:23 PM

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Maybe not Harvin but I will admit that our WR core is not getting any younger

I like Toon but i dont like when a rookie is placed on injure reserve before he ever takes a regular season snap.

Henderson is at 30
Colston, Moore, Sproles, are all coming up to 30 (29)
And Pierre Thomas is right behind them (28)

hagan714 02-11-2013 01:25 PM

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swapping draft picks and trade asap. sure. he is IR waiting to happen

CharityMike 02-11-2013 01:34 PM

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Lets be real, there is no way we can entertain getting him with the cap situation we are in. To those that don't think he would be worth every penny of what he ends up getting, ya'll are crazy!

Him and Peterson is there entire offense. Every team they played knew he was getting the ball and they still couldn't stop him. He is easily one of the most underrated receivers in the league. He had some headache issue in the beginning but seems to have gotten that straightened out. The last injury to his ankle was major. Could have happened to anybody.

Speedy Ron 02-11-2013 02:24 PM

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This guy would be top 2 best on our offense. If u could breed a person for this system it's him. Even though I hate him for fantasy football reasons and I call him pu$$y harvin

FinSaint 02-11-2013 02:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 479193)
Lets be real, there is no way we can entertain getting him with the cap situation we are in. To those that don't think he would be worth every penny of what he ends up getting, ya'll are crazy!

Him and Peterson is there entire offense. Every team they played knew he was getting the ball and they still couldn't stop him. He is easily one of the most underrated receivers in the league. He had some headache issue in the beginning but seems to have gotten that straightened out. The last injury to his ankle was major. Could have happened to anybody.


Exactly, I follow the Vikes closely, and this guy is the real deal.

CharityMike 02-11-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 479203)
This guy would be top 2 best on our offense. If u could breed a person for this system it's him. Even though I hate him for fantasy football reasons and I call him pu$$y harvin

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 479207)
Exactly, I follow the Vikes closely, and this guy is the real deal.

I followed him last season because I had him on my fantasy team lol.

SaintFanInATLHELL 02-12-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 479155)
Whoah, didn't expect this much back lash.

You are talking about trading for an offensive skill player when the defense was the worst in the history of the NFL. What did you expect?
Quote:

The facts are these: This guy would be our best WR, easily.
Pick any receiving stat you like. This assertion is patently false.
Quote:

And our third best RB.
On a team that has RBs coming out the ears...
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But landing him will be impossible. We have nothing of value for the Vikings.
Plus, he's apparently a problem child. If this were Madden, I'd make the move in a heartbeat, but if this were Madden, I'd own t-shirts from multiple New Orleans Saints Super Bowl victories and not one.
We finally agree on something: This is not Madden...

SFIAH


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