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kannon315 02-12-2013 05:34 AM

Rob Ryan notes
 
The guys has never coached alongside an offensive machine like ours. The best he had was Tony "Late Game" Turnover last year and that offense was 15th in scoring. *The Saints, under Payton have finished no higher than 12th in scoring offense with 4 top-5 finishes.

In 9 years Rob Ryan is.............
27-10 with an 8 pt. or more lead,
29 times he's allowed less than 21 points,
#1 pass defense in 2006 (Rookie Michael Huff, Stuart Schwiegert, Asomugha, Routt).
He has had 4 years in the top 15 rushing yards allowed.
4 years top 10 in Ints.*
6 years top 15 passing TDs allowed

In Rob Ryan's career*(144 games)
12 games allowing 10 pts. or less
56 games allowing 21 pts. or less (39%)
83 games allowing 24 pts. or less (58%)

I think that's good considering coaching alongside inept offenses for 7 years in Oakland and Cleveland for 7 years.

Sean Payton's Career (104 games including playoffs)
15-0 when opps. score 10 or less (100%)
42-4 when opps. score 21 or less (91%)
53-9 when opps. score 24 or less (85%)

Payton and Ryan would be*
12-0, 51-5, and 71-8 by this analysis with Rob Ryan as his DC.

Rob Ryan may not be the greatest coordinator in the NFL but we don't need him to be. If he can get our defense to perform on average, of what he has done in all his other coaching stops, we'll be fine. As far as personnel our D looked best when GW used a 3-man line IMHO.*

dizzle88 02-12-2013 05:48 AM

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Exactly

We dont need ryan to ressurect the dome patrol (although it would be nice)
We just need an average defense and we'll be good

I mean we won 7 games with the worst defense in NFL history
Just think of the games we threw away at the end with shoddy play on defense - KC (partly brees' fault) green bay, carolina panthers x2,

Winning those games would have us at 11-5, not to mention shoddy offensive play threw away the 49er game when we had a 17 point lead

SaintnDE 02-12-2013 05:55 AM

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I agree, we don't need a revist of the Dome Patrol.

We need one that can hang tight, pressure the QB, get a couple of turnovers and most of all...hold the house together when Drew (ala the offense) is in struggle mode.

The rest will take care of itself.

saintsfan1976 02-12-2013 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kannon315 (Post 479320)

Rob Ryan may not be the greatest coordinator in the NFL but we don't need him to be.

Don't tell him that!

kannon315 02-12-2013 06:22 AM

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I just hope he can get the most out of the players. I think Martez Wilson can be a stud on the edge, Lofton is a tackling machine, Cam Jordan is coming along, Akeem Hicks is a solid rock on the line and if he can get anything significant out of our DBs he's going to Canton!

|Mitch| 02-12-2013 06:38 AM

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nice stats on Ryan, kannon!

kannon315 02-12-2013 06:49 AM

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Thanks just passing time!

hagan714 02-12-2013 06:58 AM

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still want to know how long we signed him for.

yep middle of the road no matter how many high picks you give him to work with

TheOak 02-12-2013 07:36 AM

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TheOak 02-12-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 479333)
still want to know how long we signed him for.

yep middle of the road no matter how many high picks you give him to work with

I do not think with coaches, length of contract matter as much with players. You can fire him any time you like with out having to worry about cap space or if someone will pick them up. If its 1 year and it works out you give him 4 more years, if its 20 years and he doesn't work out you fire him after 1 year.

For Sean Paytons contract the length of time does not matter in the firing regards because he is a proven asset, it does define how long 31 other teams can not talk to him.

NuNu318 02-12-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 479333)
still want to know how long we signed him for.

yep middle of the road no matter how many high picks you give him to work with

Length of contract for coaches & staff DOES NOT effect the cap when it comes to players...therefore its irrelavent.

And you really need to stop crying about middle of the road defense. We had the worst defense in NFL HISTORY and won a SB with one that was 24th ranked. Pretty sure middle of the road will do just fine.

RaginCajun83 02-12-2013 11:07 AM

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I'd take a middle of the road defense right now, don't believe the Saints have had one since 2000

hagan714 02-12-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 479340)
I do not think with coaches, length of contract matter as much with players. You can fire him any time you like with out having to worry about cap space or if someone will pick them up. If its 1 year and it works out you give him 4 more years, if its 20 years and he doesn't work out you fire him after 1 year.

For Sean Paytons contract the length of time does not matter in the firing regards because he is a proven asset, it does define how long 31 other teams can not talk to him.


once i know the length of the contract i am checking to see if there is a coach say in SF that has a contract expiring that same year. that would let us know if he is a band aid for now.

TheOak 02-12-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 479433)
once i know the length of the contract i am checking to see if there is a coach say in SF that has a contract expiring that same year. that would let us know if he is a band aid for now.

Fair enough. I'm neither a fan of band aids or destabilizing a defense every few years.

Rugby Saint II 02-12-2013 04:07 PM

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Pretty interesting stuff. It does give me something else to think about. Thanks for posting.

saintsfan1976 02-12-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 479339)


What is "When the Saints Go Marching In", Alex?

hagan714 02-13-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 479434)
Fair enough. I'm neither a fan of band aids or destabilizing a defense every few years.


neither am I but i find it hard to believe we waited so long to hire him if he was really our #1 pick as DC. I think the SP had a SF coach in mind. But they are under contract.

if this 34 rebirth is going to happen at least it would be another 34 coach coming in.

IF IF IF hand grenades and horse shoe

TheOak 02-14-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 479719)
neither am I but i find it hard to believe we waited so long to hire him if he was really our #1 pick as DC. I think the SP had a SF coach in mind. But they are under contract.

if this 34 rebirth is going to happen at least it would be another 34 coach coming in.

IF IF IF hand grenades and horse shoe

Exactly my point. We didn't get who we really wanted for some reason and I'm not entirely amorous with that fact.

Seer1 02-14-2013 06:53 AM

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Just keep in mind the last guy we wanted put us in the history books....

TheOak 02-14-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 479775)
Just keep in mind the last guy we wanted put us in the history books....

Not sure that was a "we". More like a they or he.


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