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TheOak 02-13-2013 10:35 AM

Top 10 under-the-radar FAs
 
Chris Ivory, running back

2012 team: New Orleans Saints
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With Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram and Travaris Cadet on the roster, Ivory was limited to 68 snaps this year, down from the 156 he managed in 2011 and 195 as a rookie. He's clearly not a big part of what the Saints do, yet that doesn't mean he couldn't (or wouldn't) contribute in a big way for someone else.
For his career, Ivory is averaging an astonishing 5.1 yards per carry (compared to the 3.9 of Ingram) despite the fact that when he's in the game it's a telltale sign the Saints are running (74.9 percent of his snaps were on running plays), letting the offense key in on him. This is because he's incredibly hard to bring down. Ivory has forced 57 missed tackles from a running position since entering the league, or one every 4.9 touches. This season, Adrian Peterson forced one every 5.4 touches.



2013 NFL free agency - Chris Ivory, Brad Jones among under-the-radar FAs - ESPN

-DWD- 02-13-2013 11:08 AM

Who else is on the list? Any 3-4 OLBs?

hagan714 02-13-2013 09:27 PM

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ESPN Insider only grrrr

Boutte 02-13-2013 10:23 PM

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How many games has he missed or been forced to leave due to injury. You can't talk about Ivory with out talking about injuries.

Danno 02-13-2013 10:27 PM

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He's a stud, when healthy.

I'm beginning to think "when healthy" is actually his last name.

st thomas 02-13-2013 11:08 PM

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It was'nt only his injuries in 2012, his fumbling in practice that sprung cadet 's activity

halloween 65 02-14-2013 07:28 AM

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When he played we won, when he sat we lost. Teams have to play a lot tighter when he is in the game and he still gets yds. He should be very health this season from sitting, I would use him as our feature back every game, trade Sproles for some really good picks.

-DWD- 02-14-2013 07:43 AM

I really like Ivory... I like the violence he runs with, and that he has the speed to break a long one to the house at any given time. BUT, he's a limited RB. He's below average as a receiver out of the backfield, he's considered a liability in pass protection and blitz pick-up, and then there's his laundry list of injuries...

I really think we'll tender him at the lowest level, and if someone else signs him to an offer sheet, he's gone.

Danno 02-14-2013 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -DWD- (Post 479787)
I really like Ivory... I like the violence he runs with, and that he has the speed to break a long one to the house at any given time. BUT, he's a limited RB. He's below average as a receiver out of the backfield, he's considered a liability in pass protection and blitz pick-up, and then there's his laundry list of injuries...

I really think we'll tender him at the lowest level, and if someone else signs him to an offer sheet, he's gone.

Well said, I really like Ivory. I have ever since his first training camp when he was out-producing every one of our RB's. But even then he was putting the ball on the carpet way too often. Only the homerist homer would deny he's injured way too frequently.

If he could stay healthy for 16 games and get about 20-25 carries per game, I think he'd put up Adrian Peterson type numbers. He'd also end up being the best RB we've ever had.

Our best option is probably the ROFR Tender. We wouldn't get any compensation but we'd at least get a chance to match the offer.

I just can't see us tendering him at a 2nd rounder. No one will bite and we'd just add another 2 million to our cap on the side of the ball where we need no help.

BTW: Welcome aboard DWD. Hope you stay a while.

-DWD- 02-14-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 479801)
Well said, I really like Ivory. I have ever since his first training camp when he was out-producing every one of our RB's. But even then he was putting the ball on the carpet way too often. Only the homerist homer would deny he's injured way too frequently.

If he could stay healthy for 16 games and get about 20-25 carries per game, I think he'd put up Adrian Peterson type numbers. He'd also end up being the best RB we've ever had....

Agreed, but in the Saints offense, Ivory (or any other RB) will never see 20-25 carries a game... It's just not what we do. We run "packages" on offense, and just about every package requires a different RB.

I think if Chris Ivory went to a zone-blocking/1-cut running scheme, he'd be AWESOME (health permitting of course).

I could also see a team like Denver signing him, and him becoming a 1,200 yd RB next year.

xan 02-14-2013 08:39 AM

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-DWD- 02-14-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 479809)
Rebbit

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Tradbat

Tradebait.

Tradebait the Frog has spoken.

We'd have to re-sign him before we could trade him, and even then, it'd be really difficult to get any value for a 4th RB who hasn't made it through a single season without being hurt.

I think, AT BEST, we could hope for a conditional 5th or 6th rounder in exchange for Ivory.

FinSaint 02-14-2013 09:33 AM

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Ivory alone wouldn't be much of a trade piece, but as a part of a bigger package he could provide nice value - but he would have to be re-signed before that could happen.

Rugby Saint II 02-14-2013 12:10 PM

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We don't need four running backs.........someone needs to go and Ivory seems to be the odd man out.
I say we don't need four running backs, but I'd better be careful because we know what happens when a couple of our backs get injured.

triman 02-14-2013 05:38 PM

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Just can't see. spending the cap space for a part time RB. None of our coaches are dumb, he has some flaw that keeps him from being the guy. NUFF SAID!

Budsdrinker 02-15-2013 08:20 AM

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What scares me is if we don't re-sign him, the failcons will pick him up to replace Turner and he will kill us in the 2 games he plays against us because it will be his only 2 healthy games.

blackangold 02-15-2013 04:01 PM

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If Ivory goes to another team he will be a top 5 RB...

you FFL players get ready to snag him in the later round ;)

saintfan 02-15-2013 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 479809)
Rebbit

Trebbit

Trabbit

Traddit

Tradbit

Tradbat

Tradebait.

Tradebait the Frog has spoken.

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Danno 02-15-2013 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 480127)
If Ivory goes to another team he will be a top 5 RB...
you FFL players get ready to snag him in the later round ;)

But play him early and often, because he probably won't be around past week 4.

ChrisXVI 02-15-2013 06:14 PM

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We actually have 5 RB's... Don't forget Cadet. I've said before, if another team offers him a deal and offers us a later round draft pick then we absolutely should let him go... Providing that it's not to a division rival!

triman 02-15-2013 09:33 PM

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Ivory has issuses that have kept him off the field. IMHO we tender him low and let him go If someone wants to give him big money. Cant put my finger on it something. isn't quite right???


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