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Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Harper, Vilma and Smith all have limitations and will only decline from here. We could bring in some young guns and train them cheaper....

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Old 02-14-2013, 12:15 PM   #11
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Re: Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

Harper, Vilma and Smith all have limitations and will only decline from here. We could bring in some young guns and train them cheaper.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:42 PM   #12
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Re: Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

Originally Posted by pherein View Post
IF you cut these guys I think this is the break down, or close to the minus to CAP, and what it cost in 2014. Correct if wrong, so we can be somewhat accurate.

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Re: Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

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Not as bad a move as you think. Greer has been injury riddled his whole career with the Saints. Now on top of injuries which he has never been able to get ahead of teams are singling him out and picking on him.
Greer is only 30
You call injury riddled ?
2004 12
2005 16
2006 16
2007 16
2008 10
2009 9
2010 14
2011 16
2012 14
you really need to look things up a bit more before, no offense. If that is injury riddled in the NFL, then Ellis and smith and porter are paraplegic. Greer has been trailing revis in stats sense 2009, and was highly respected in Bufl. Ive shown that 100x, and scored as our 2nd highest defender in the rankings. Most QB's know not to pass Greers way. Which is why white and RP look so bad.
But Its pretty understandable he did not have a great year, and as the best DB we have, he can only do so much. Cutting Greer makes no sense.

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Old 02-14-2013, 01:01 PM   #14
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Re: Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

Harper, 30, is due $5.35 million next season, but his overall production has dropped off considerably as of late. Pro Football Focus actually has him rated as the second worst qualifying safety from last season.

Harper GONE !
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Re: Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

Everyone keeps screaming "Cut so and so!" You do realize that we have to replace these guys with somebody right? And that we have to pay them? I can understand Vilma and Smith, they're pretty much done for anyway and their salaries are far beyond their abilities. Harper is definitely overpaid but he's a good SS and I'm pretty sure Loomis will work something out. But if you're going to cut half the defense, like so many here seem to want to do, who are you going to find that's better AND cheaper?
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:46 PM   #16
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Re: Saints Notes: Roman Harper, Jonathan Vilma and Will Smith

Here, here, Boutte!

Some cuts are undoubtedly on their way, but that doesn't mean that there'll be too many of them. Smith and Vilma are certainly on the bubble, but even they might be brought back after the release or with a re-negotiated contract.
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