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Seer1 03-26-2013 07:06 AM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
Six pages in and I'm still having trouble taking this thread seriously. Hell, if you're looking for a bargain, sign me! I'd be on the field as much, be able to cover nearly as well and I'd be able to pay off my truck! There'd be poor Malcolm having to do the safety and CB position again this year. Porter's worse days are just ahead. Hey Tracy, I think Oakland's on the phone...

FinSaint 03-26-2013 07:07 AM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 489940)
The only facts you've pointed out is as follows:

1. Inflated market for CB
2. Born in Lafayette
3. Skills diminished with the Eagles

I have one FACT for you, if they don't generate any pass rush it doesn't matter who they sign at corner including Revis, no corner will be able to cover a NFL WR.
So in your way of thinking and the facts, if we sign a Nnamdi Asomugha it automatically gives us a better secondary based on what he did 3 years ago. REALLY!!!!!!!!


Yes, those were pretty much the facts that I listed, only I'd put them as:

1. Inflated market for CBs has set the market value for premium CBs at around $5M/yr.
2. Deflated market value for Asomugha because of the Eagles years makes it unlikely he'd be offered a premium CB salary.
3. Louisiana native, which suggests possible emotional ties to the geographic location and to the Saints' franchise.
4. Familiarity with Rob Ryan and his scheme, which fits Asomugha's skill set.

As for the rest of your reply; I never made a claim that signing Asomugha would automatically make the Saints' secondary better, although it probably would. And I do share your sentiment about the need for an effective pass rush to support the secondary, but those two defensive units do compliment each other as in a good pass rush will most likely make the secondary look better and vise versa, so it's not just a "one way street" in that regard. My whole point was to caution against making statements about how expensive Asomugha will be to sign without actually basing that on any factual evidence; it was never about how he'd miraculously make the Saints' defensive backfield the best in the league along with the rest of the defensive unit.

As far as Asomugha's suggested diminished skill set goes, I trust that the Saints' FO and Rob Ryan can make that call better than I can based on the limited evidence I have at my disposal. If they were willing to offer him a contract, I trust that they feel comfortable in what Asomugha can bring to the table. If they have concerns, I again trust that the contract offer reflects that in either its overall value or in its construct, as in it including performance based escalators to compensate for lower base salary.

I wish you would read my replies more carefully, since it seems that you are drawing conclusions from them that I haven't intended... then again it might just be that I'm not making myself clear enough causing the misunderstandings.

RockyMountainSaint 03-26-2013 04:31 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
Tracy Porter reportedly visits New Orleans Saints - NFL.com

Joker 03-26-2013 05:10 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
NFL Free Agency 2013: Top 50 Players Still Available on the Open Market | Bleacher Report

Danno 03-26-2013 06:44 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 

I like Winfield @ NB
Michael Huff @ FS
James Harrison at OLB (I LOVE IT)

Joker 03-26-2013 07:27 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
New Orleans Saints - 2013 Cap Hits

Just the facts and its not pretty.

Danno 03-26-2013 08:14 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 490140)
New Orleans Saints - 2013 Cap Hits

Just the facts and its not pretty.

With the exception of Will Smith and Roman Harper it doesn't look too bad. Not great, but it could be worse.

Joker 03-26-2013 08:17 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 490153)
With the exception of Will Smith and Roman Harper it doesn't look too bad. Not great, but it could be worse.

Not to much room to sign a good CB, LB and draft picks

Danno 03-26-2013 08:21 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 490154)
Not to much room to sign a good CB, LB and draft picks

Draft picks are cheap, and we're 3 million under with a few options.

Joker 03-26-2013 08:22 PM

Re: Saints Should Consider Re-Signing Tracy Porter
 
Bargain basement shopping, I hope it works.


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