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Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Yes, they knocked it out of the park in 2006, no doubt. But since then have they really drafted all that well? Other than Nicks and Graham, and to a lesser extent Ingram and Jordan, it doesn't look so good. ...

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Old 02-19-2013, 06:45 PM   #1
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Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

Yes, they knocked it out of the park in 2006, no doubt.

But since then have they really drafted all that well? Other than Nicks and Graham, and to a lesser extent Ingram and Jordan, it doesn't look so good.

I'm not including 2012 since its too early to judge.

2011 1 1 24 24 Cameron Jordan DE California
2011 2 1 28 28 Mark Ingram RB
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2011 3 3 8 72 Martez Wilson LB Illinois
2011 4 3 24 88 Johnny Patrick DB Louisville
2011 5 7 23 226 Greg Romeus DE Pittsburgh
2011 6 7 40 243 Nate Bussey LB Illinois
2010 1 1 32 32 Patrick Robinson DB Florida State
2010 2 2 32 64 Charles Brown T USC
2010 3 3 31 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (FL)
2010 4 4 25 123 Al Woods DT Louisiana State
2010 5 5 27 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College
2010 6 7 32 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State
2009 1 1 14 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State
2009 2 4 16 116 Chip Vaughn DB Wake Forest
2009 3 4 18 118 Stanley Arnoux LB Wake Forest
2009 4 5 28 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist
2008 1 1 7 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC
2008 2 2 9 40 Tracy Porter DB Indiana
2008 3 5 9 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State
2008 4 5 29 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska
2008 5 6 12 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin
2008 6 7 30 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan
2007 1 1 27 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
2007 2 3 2 66 Usama Young DB Kent State
2007 3 3 25 88 Andy Alleman G Akron
2007 4 4 8 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State
2007 5 4 26 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson
2007 6 5 8 145 David Jones DB Wingate
2007 7 7 10 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their reputation?

I think you're forgetting the most important names:
Gibbs
Williams (good and worse)
Spags
Ryan (?)
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Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
I think you're forgetting the most important names:
Gibbs
Williams (good and worse)
Spags
Ryan (?)
Those guys weren't drafted.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:18 PM   #4
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

I think what it means is who's coaching the draft picks.
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

the saints are risk takers and it shows
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

Cant forget Morestead, Meachem, and Bushrod in that list which all came to be decent.
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

Meachem? Are you freaking kidding?

He was put on the Physically Unable to Perform because he wasn't in shape; a rookie WR that wasn't in shape!!!

It was a horrible pick and he didn't warrant a first round selection; and there were better players on the board and definite greater needs at other positions (and still are there)...
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:56 PM   #8
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

well one things for certain, they done better the last couple of years.


What I am ready to throw under the bus though is any player that doesnt even begin to make an impact their rookie year, so far none of the players we drafted that hasnt even begin to impact the game at least to some extent in their rookie year has went on to do anything. You look at other teams and you got some rookie starting and actually performing, this team after each draft, dont even get that far, least not on defense.

I mean I honestly want a list of players in this game or a percentage of them that has done nothing in their rookie year that actually went on to become a really good player.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:04 AM   #9
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

You forgot one of the superstars on the team.

2009 4 5 28 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

Obviously none of us know what its like in the draft rooms but there are some serious questions with our recent drafting skills

Patrick Robinson - 1st round when he wasn't even the best CB on his team
Usama young - 2nd round WTF!!
Taylor melhaff - off the team after half a season
Sed Ellis - What a joke
Chip Vaughan and Stanley Arnoux - beasts in college and never even made it on the field here
Al Woods - Cut in preseason for lack of work ethic

Something needs to change with our draft strategy, cuz it aint working
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