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SmashMouth 02-21-2013 04:32 PM

Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
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One of New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's problems in Dallas apparently was his complex and voluminous defensive schemes, according to Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones.


Was former Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's downfall brought on because he employed too many schemes?

In a story on the Dallas Morning News website, Jones said "too many schemes" caused the Cowboys to remove Ryan and replace him with Monte Kiffin.

"I think Rob is a very smart guy," Jones said told the DMN. "His schemes are very sound. There are a lot of schemes. That becomes a question. We made a tough decision. We felt like too many schemes can cause problems regardless of how good they are and how sound they are. If there is more than the players can digest in this day and time - as you don't keep players for long, they move on and you have injuries - you just had to make a decision. And we made a tough one."

Ryan, the son of legendary coach Buddy Ryan and the twin brother of New York Jets Coach Rex Ryan, was hired by the Saints earlier this month and is being tasked with revamping a defense that yielded 7,042 yards last season, the most in NFL history.

Ryan will bring in his attacking 3-4 scheme, as the Saints transition from the 4-3 defense used under former defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. In two seasons in Dallas, Ryan's defensie ranked 14th in 2011 and 19th last season when the unit was hit hard by injuries.

The loquacious Ryan, who hasn't been made available to the media since his hiring, wasn't available for comment.

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jnormand 02-21-2013 04:41 PM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
"Schemes"? Sheeeeit. I just hope one of his many "schemes" gets our defense out of the cellar.

Danno 02-21-2013 04:43 PM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once?

SmashMouth 02-21-2013 04:45 PM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 481128)
Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once?

Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

Danno 02-21-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 481130)
Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

LOL!!!

dizzle88 02-21-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 481128)
Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once?

Yeah he accepted fault for throwing too much at his players at once but said hes learned from that and knows how to better implement a scheme

biloxi-indian 02-21-2013 05:03 PM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
I hope one of his "schemes" is basic tackling!

NOLA54 02-21-2013 05:05 PM

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He was fired because Jery & the boys don't have a clue!!!!

RockyMountainSaint 02-21-2013 05:39 PM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 481130)
Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

Xan, break out your red pen!

Shoe. 02-21-2013 05:49 PM

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As long as Ryan understands that this is basically a hard reboot he's dealing with, and no matter what you're teaching, keeping it simple comes first.

K Major 02-21-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 481139)
He was fired because Jery & the boys don't have a clue!!!!

They really don't. As long as Jerry Jones is the owner/GM, they will remain in the dark abyss of mediocrity. The glory days are long gone and JJ is delusional.

America's team... lmbo.

Rugby Saint II 02-21-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoe. (Post 481143)
As long as Ryan understands that this is basically a hard reboot he's dealing with, and no matter what you're teaching, keeping it simple comes first.

KISS............keep it simple stupid!:cool:
And oh yeah, teach 'em how to tackle.

westbankdaze 02-21-2013 08:20 PM

We don't need spags part deux please.

WhoDat!656 02-21-2013 08:30 PM

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Keep It Simple Stupid!

xan 02-21-2013 08:48 PM

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Don't be dissing our Booger.

QBREES9 02-21-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 481170)
Keep It Simple Stupid!

You beat me to it.

Jamessr 02-21-2013 10:50 PM

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I'm sure the story is more like
"Jerry tried running the defense too... I told him to butt out and I was fired"
The end... once again media making **** up

hagan714 02-22-2013 01:07 AM

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I just hope he use the players he has right.

accept the facts as they are.
we are not ready to be a 34 defense.
tinker with the roster and evaluate the players
but by no means do you go 100% 34 defense this year
bounce in out of 34 to a 43 till players prove they can adapt to it.

the defense can only improve and the fact we are going back to attacking vs containment is the right first step.

like the brain trust here says

K.I.S.S. and Tackle

FinSaint 02-22-2013 05:56 AM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 481130)
Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?


Still, I'm not convinced that the Saints' players are Einstein's either, so we'll see...

dizzle88 02-22-2013 06:30 AM

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The reason i think we struggle with tackling every year is because of how many non contact drills they run in training camp, SP is always saying they are in pads but its not live tackling to stop injuries

Well at this point i think its time to throw the risk of injuries out the window, we need to learn how to tackle and you can tell the players havent practiced it because we learn to tackle about week 5 of the season when its too late

burningmetal 02-22-2013 07:45 AM

Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 481130)
Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

Lol. Sadly our defense may have an even lower IQ if you believe everyone who says we sucked because they didn't understand Spagnuolo's defense.

foreverfan 02-22-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 481130)
Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an amoeba?

I think the Saints have proven that WE have the Amoeba brain. Dallas has the brains of a much higher organism... like say bacteria. Hopefully Ryan can get us somewhere a little higher than that.... say good bacteria.
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westbankdaze 02-22-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 481244)
I think the Saints have proven that WE have the Amoeba brain. Dallas has the brains of a much higher organism... like say bacteria. Hopefully Ryan can get us somewhere a little higher than that.... say good bacteria.
http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/300/225446150.jpg

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