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Old 02-23-2013, 02:16 AM   #31
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Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract

yeah you don't trade talent like that, end of story.
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Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract

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yeah you don't trade talent like that, end of story.

Well an organization should if it seems like they won't be able to re-sign such a talent to a long term contract with reasonable compensation and the only way to really get the most benefit out of the said talent is to trade him elsewhere while he is still under contract, and have some other team pay for the talent involved.

The worst case scenario being that he plays out his contract and signs with another team next offseason with the Saints potentially only getting a compensatory pick out of the whole deal.

Now, I personally believe that Graham will re-sign a long term contract with the Saints and the annual worth of it will be much lower than the $12M reported in this "article." But you have to be ready to pull the trigger on a difficult choice if it seems like the best option for the organization in the long run - no matter who the player is and/or what type of talent he has.

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Old 02-23-2013, 07:18 AM   #33
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Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract

We would do well to remember that we are only as strong as our weakest link.
We need to resource our weakest areas if we want to be always in contention because our very best do not deliver everytime - regardless of their pay structure.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:31 AM   #34
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Well an organization should if it seems like they won't be able to re-sign such a talent to a long term contract with reasonable compensation and the only way to really get the most benefit out of the said talent is to trade him elsewhere while he is still under contract, and have some other team pay for the talent involved.

The worst case scenario being that he plays out his contract and signs with another team next offseason with the Saints potentially only getting a compensatory pick out of the whole deal.

Now, I personally believe that Graham will re-sign a long term contract with the Saints and the annual worth of it will be much lower than the $12M reported in this "article." But you have to be ready to pull the trigger on a difficult choice if it seems like the best option for the organization in the long run - no matter who the player is and/or what type of talent he has.
Certainly, and I am not advocating 12M either, but we have to pay him. The guy is top 3 at his position in the league. Just doesn't make any sense to lose talent like that. MJ shouldn't be making 11, if that's accurate. There's a cut we can make to help pay for him.

But yeah- if we can't and we know it is impossible I see your point. I agree- we'll sign him
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The way I see it. Graham has had 1 outstanding year, last year was a flop, and his contract is not up till next year. He did not prove or backup anything in 2012.


If you take away 2011, he is an average TE.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...2/jimmy-graham


He has not proven to be worth 12mm at this point. If you take away the 2011 season and he may have been cut instead of Thomas.
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:21 AM   #36
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The way I see it. Graham has had 1 outstanding year, last year was a flop, and his contract is not up till next year. He did not prove or backup anything in 2012.

If you take away 2011, he is an average TE.
Jimmy Graham Stats - New Orleans Saints - ESPN

He has not proven to be worth 12mm at this point. If you take away the 2011 season and he may have been cut instead of Thomas.
And these points are valid.

We would be $120M over the cap if we paid on potential. And still be where we are, results-wise.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:56 PM   #37
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The way I see it. Graham has had 1 outstanding year, last year was a flop, and his contract is not up till next year. He did not prove or backup anything in 2012.


If you take away 2011, he is an average TE.
Jimmy Graham Stats - New Orleans Saints - ESPN


He has not proven to be worth 12mm at this point. If you take away the 2011 season and he may have been cut instead of Thomas.
Um I just looked it up... he was #2 in the league in yards for TE'S. He was second in TD's. He was third in receptions. What do you consider outstanding?
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And these points are valid.
No, they're not. #2, #2, and #3 is fairly outstanding, IMHO
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Um I just looked it up... he was #2 in the league in yards for TE'S. He was second in TD's. He was third in receptions. What do you consider outstanding?
Not being #1 in drops.
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Re: Jimmy Graham Could Be Targeting As Much As $12 Annually In His Next Contract

He has a lot to prove this coming season. Was it his wrist problem that caused all the drops? More importantly right now, will this thread last through the entire year or will a new one start after next season?
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