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ChrisXVI 02-23-2013 08:38 AM

Terron Armstead
 
Terron Armstead, a 306-pound tackle, runs a jaw-dropping 40 | ProFootballTalk

I know the 40 yard dash is incredibly overrated amongst analysts and the like, but I haven't heard anything about this guy until now. Potential later round pick? What do you guys think? I mean, it is crazy that a 300 pound offensive lineman ran practically the same 40 as our own Mark Ingram. We do have an uncanny ability to turn later round offensive linemen into Pro Bowlers. Is he just a Combine work out warrior?

Danno 02-23-2013 08:44 AM

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Straight-line speed in shorts and a T-shirt from a track start is highly over-rated.

BTW: Ingram and Ivory both ran a low of 4.47 at their pro-days.

hagan714 02-23-2013 08:48 AM

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Armstead ran his 40-yard dash in an unofficial time of 4.65 seconds, which is stunningly fast for a 306-pound offensive tackle

yep he has been thrown around in the big board section more than once. there are some really interesting OT in this year draft in the middle rounds that are worth the pick using the "UPSIDE" factor. he is one of them

Lane Johnson Oklahoma
6-6 303
Bench 28
arm 35.28

Terron Armstead Arkansas-Pinebluff
6-5 306
Bench 31
arm 34.08

Luke Marquardt Azusa Pacific
6-8 315
Bench 31
arm 34.48

David Quessenberry San Jose State
6-5 302
Bench 25
arm 34.38

ChrisXVI 02-23-2013 08:48 AM

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I was just meaning Ingram's 4.68 at the combine. But like I said, 40 times are greatly overrated by analysts. We're gonna lose Bushrod and Charles Brown isn't gonna amount to anything... Hell, even Strief is inconsistent at best. Just thought this guy might be an interesting prospect.

Danno 02-23-2013 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 481492)
I was just meaning Ingram's 4.68 at the combine. But like I said, 40 times are greatly overrated by analysts. We're gonna lose Bushrod and Charles Brown isn't gonna amount to anything... Hell, even Strief is inconsistent at best. Just thought this guy might be an interesting prospect.

Agreed, I'm sure some eyebrows were raised and a few interview lists were adjusted.

FinSaint 02-23-2013 09:10 AM

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He could be a monster in the screen game blocking if that track speed translated into game speed.

ChrisXVI 02-23-2013 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 481503)
He could be a monster in the screen game blocking if that track speed translated into game speed.

That's what I was thinking... Imagine a screen pass to Pierre with Grubbs pulling outside to help block the DE and this cat Armstead making blocks at the second level! I know, I'm getting sucked into pre-draft hype... But damn it, I'm just excited about the offseason. I don't even know if he's capable of playing LT so I'm going to shut up LOL.

Seer1 02-23-2013 10:37 AM

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If there's some technique there as well...

hagan714 02-23-2013 11:35 AM

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the thing about him is he needs work but the athletic ability is there.

Armstead is a freakish all-around athlete who was also an outstanding shot putter in college, but the question, of course, is whether he can translate that athleticism to playing at the NFL level. And on that score, the early indications are good: Although he didn’t play against high-quality competition at Arkansas Pine-Bluff, he was a good college player who was so impressive at the East-West Shrine Game that he got a late invitation to the Senior Bowl.

Ashley 02-23-2013 11:59 AM

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Could yall see this guy eligible for a pass? Wow talk about some miss match head aches, with Pt or Sproles all coming out of the backfield.... It would be fun to watch

Seer1 02-23-2013 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 481544)
Could yall see this guy eligible for a pass? Wow talk about some miss match head aches, with Pt or Sproles all coming out of the backfield.... It would be fun to watch

A true tackle eligible play? Hmmmm Imagine in a couple of years when all of a sudden tackles start being evaluated for their hands.

triman 02-23-2013 01:44 PM

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Everyone. knows about him now!

Crusader 02-23-2013 02:15 PM

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What a 40 time like that really does is get everybodys attention, scouts will look at an extra round of film on him. If his pay on film looks decent he'll probably increas his draft stock quite a bit. When does the Jokeland Raiders pick again?

jeanpierre 02-23-2013 03:59 PM

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Slot Armstead at no later than a fourth rounder...

TheOak 02-23-2013 04:41 PM

The 40 is nearly more about launch than speed.

These days they work with track coaches for months to prefect their launch.

Put him in a 3 point and Ingram in a RB stance (football stances), and let them run a 40 side by side.

Rugby Saint II 02-23-2013 10:33 PM

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Do we have the time to develop players?

Seer1 02-23-2013 11:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 481630)
Do we have the time to develop players?

Do we have a coach that can?

hagan714 02-24-2013 12:00 AM

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with the ot we have now? hell ya! develop away

hagan714 02-24-2013 12:10 AM

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Kendall Wright and Mohamed Sanu ran 4.61 and 4.67

more impressive is 1.64 10yard split (fastest lane Johnson 1.61)


high-upside left tackle now Round 2 ?

here we go with combine hype

round 3 looks to be the magic round

lee909 02-24-2013 12:32 AM

I can't see us getting any of the top 3 LOT without moving up.The best hope we have if a couple of the top QB's have outstanding combines and teams reach for them.I wouldn't mind finding a veteran for a year and moving up next year for the top tackle.

FinSaint 02-24-2013 04:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 481644)
I wouldn't mind finding a veteran for a year and moving up next year for the top tackle.


True, and there are quite a few potential candidates on the FA market to fill that spot with veteran presence for a year or two - still, drafting a starter at LT would be the most cost efficient way of filling that spot right now.

lee909 02-24-2013 04:57 AM

Agree completely,If Mathews plays as well next year as this I wouldn't mind the high cost of trading up for him.LOT far too costly for us at the moment.

Luda34 02-24-2013 01:39 PM

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how long will he last in the draft I still don't think he's a first round draft pick and then we don't draft until the 3 round.

FinSaint 02-24-2013 01:55 PM

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Well Charles Brown was picked as early as he was heavily due to his quick feet, so quickness and speed may not always be the indicator how good of a tackle a collegiate player becomes in the NFL.

hagan714 02-24-2013 01:58 PM

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Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma is still my pick

Looks good but not so important
40 yards 4.72 ( second fastest time ever)

now for OL these are important
10yard split 1.61 ( fastest )
three-cone drill 7.31 (fastest )

he was solid during the year and has nothing but proven tape does not lie. I see a solid player with a ton of upside.

Now i am jumping on this band wagon. i liked him at the end of the season but had my questions answered

But also with his climb that in my book is well worth it. That means a better defensive may slip through Tampa or Carolina to us that maybe get us that trade down bait we might need.


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