Cards to pursue Ivory?
 

"Depending on the (Saints') tender offer," Arizona XTRA 910's Mike Jurecki expects the Cardinals to pursue restricted free agent RB Chris Ivory.

If the Saints tender Ivory, it should be at the original-round level. Ivory was an undrafted free agent, so the Cardinals wouldn't have to surrender draft-pick compensation if they signed him to an offer sheet and the Saints chose not to match. Ivory is terribly brittle, but would be a nice addition for a team that badly needs a talent infusion at running back. Related: Cardinals

Source: Mike Jurecki on Twitter

We heard some of this chatter last year during the season, until our cap issue gets resolved, this could be a likely scenario this tiime.

Can't see him coming back.Good player but far too injury prone.
Could see us drafting Le'Veon Bell depending on what round he goes.His old OC is the new RB coach.

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I'd prefer an AFC team, but at least its not an NFCS team.

I we do play his future team, I hope its after week six so we don't have to face him.

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I listen at 92.9 The Game out in Atlanta from time to time... Jamie Dukes, Cordell Stewart and the Falcon bunch are also high on Ivory.

If he leaves for the AFC and Cards, I wish him well though.

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I'd hate to see him kamikaze himself into one of our LB'ers and knocking each other out. Ivory is going to get hurt... and if he's on another team, hopefully he won't take one of ours with him.

I love Ivory... but he's a luxury right now. Would love to see some sort of sign and trade even if it's for a 6 or 7th round pick.

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I've heard this too, that Atlanta sees Ivory as a replacement for Michael Turner.
It's unfortunate that Ivory hasn't been healthy enough to offer him the money other teams will solicit him with.

Facts are, he's a fantastic back, but was injured most of his career at the Saints.

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I heard Atlanta is after Steven Jackson? I don't see the saints sending anyone to Atlanta either.

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NA MAKE THE CARDINALS GIVE UP A PICK CAUSE HE'S WORTH ATLEAST A MID ROUND PICK! cards are in nfc can't just give him away

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I really like Ivory but I can't see how we could afford to keep him.

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ugh that sucks.... Ivory runs down hill lowers his head... maybe ingram learned something....

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Sign and trade a second rounder...:D

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If anyone is really pursuing him, he's easily caught, since he's injured

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Saints wouldn't be sending him anywhere. He is an unrestricted FA.

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He still runs a 4.9 on crutches.

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And I can run a 20.9/40 at 230lbs.....:phat:

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Ivory is our best back in my eyes as a runner I would hate to see him leave but the guy has to much talent to stay here and be a fourth stringer. I know the Saints are going to miss him when he leaves.

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I douth we would get a second pick for him but if there stupid enough to do it make the deal.

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THE SAINTS NEED TO EITHER TRADE IVORY! WE NEED PICKS! If you can trade Ivory for atleast a 5th hopefully a 2nd or 3rd!
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS LOCK UP IVORY, TRADE INGRAM!
But have to get value for Ingram like a 1st or a 2nd and a mid rd pick!

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Actually he's a RFA....which means we would probably get some kind of compensation if he does sign an offer sheet from another team and we don't match it.

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The problem is that he was an undrafted FA.

Zero compensation.

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True, sort of.

We can tender him a 2nd rounder at 2 million, but if no one bites he costs us 2 million.

Our best bet is a ROFR tender at about 1.5 million, which means we can just match any offer he gets. If its too steep, we let him walk, but we don't get squat.

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Good luck staying healthy behind that OL!

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2 million for probably half a season...no thanks. Even if the Saints had the cash it's not worth it.

I do wonder if his constant injuries are due to bring active one week then inactive the next.
Watch him go elsewhere and run for over 1000yards

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This stinks.

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Loomis would not do ROFR.
So we get squadoosh when he leaves. Which he will.
Zero sum.

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In his rookie season he played his first game vs falcons, fumbled and got injured

Yeah Ivory is a beast but I don't think we need 4 backs anymore, and if hes not getting on the field or he's injured constantly then he's wasting a roster spot for a much needed defensive player

Ivory is a hell of an RB, around mid way through last season Mark Ingram showed that he could go toe to toe with ivorys performance and ran with more purpose, Ingram is the future and as much Fun as Ivory is to watch, you get those 5-6 amazing plays and then 2 weeks on the sideline

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As far as I know they the Saints can decide to tender him at any level they want because he was an UDFA, so they could tender him high to force another team to match, but the danger there is that they'd have to honor that higher tender if no other team matched it.

I don't know if a (artificially) higher tender would have an affect on the compensatory pick discussion, but with the restructures Loomis has been working on; I think the Saints are going after some FAs, so in the end the Saints probably end up gaining more from the FA pool than they lose to other teams... once again.

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We're damned if we do and damned if we don't with Chris. It's kind of like my drinking problem: two hands and only one mouth. We need too much in too many other areas to keep him. We have too many good backs to even pretend to tender and every other team knows that. All they gotta do is wait. All we can get for him is what he's already given us. On the upside, if the Cards do take him, they'll basically have a job share with him and Beanie Wells who also runs like a ton and a half truck and spends half the season on the bench. Their running game could turn just short of awesome. Not to worry though, Snake bit Andy has never been able to figure out that whole quarterback thing. His bad luck and dumb assed coaching decisions ain't gonna wash away in that Arizona sun. Arizona'd be a great place for Ivory to end up.

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If you're referring to Andy Reid; he is HC on the Kansas City Chiefs.

Bruce Arians is the HC of the Arizona Cardinals.

Both are new to their positions, so I do understand the confusion.

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Apparently we need to keep Ivory around to motivate Ingram. :wink:

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Ivory has no affect on Ingram's motivation. Where'd you get that from?

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Love what leighton said trade Ingram keep Ivory. You didn't see anything out of Ingram till Ivory stated smoking his arse. I for one not sold on Ingram. If Ivory would get the carries they have been giving Ingram you would see the difference between those two. Ingram has had injury issues also so Ivory is not the only one.

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Ingram had 156 carries this past season and didnt get injured once
Ivory had 7-9 carries vs the falcons and then missed 3 weeks

Ingram is coming along and is durable, i for one prefer the durable back compared to the amazing play then injured type that ivory is

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Ivory could be one of the very best in the league. Scratch that, he is one of the best. But the guy is an injury waiting to happen. I remember one game his rookie year he got injured came back in and got another injury, came back in and got another injury. Three separate injuries in one game!

I love watching him but it just isn't worth keeping him around. Just hope we don't have to play whoever he winds up with.

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I remember this past off-season the dude got injured while rehabbing an injury.

If someone could guarantee me he'd play 16 games injury free, I'd trade PT, Ingram AND Sproles because we wouldn't need any of them.

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Hahaha! What a dumbass! It still seems our best solution is to cut him loose... unless Loomis comes up with some more of his magic. I don't see how we can afford four RBs with everything else we need this coming season.

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He's got to get out of our division at the least. I like him too much to really root against him, but I would if he went to the Failclowns. Good thing he didnt end up running against us last year, even crippled he probably would have went for a buck and a quarter, at least. Hope for the best for the guy.

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I guess it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, I mean the deal with his last name and his tendency to get injured, since ivory is actually a fairly brittle material even though it looks strong and hard on the outside.

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It started sometime during the interim interim coaches period I think. I can't remember the game and I don't really feel like going through all my DVR's to find out.
Oh wait, I think it was after the game when Sproles broke his hand and Ivory and Chris were splitting carries. Ingram just started running harder and harder as the game went on because I vory was killing the defense.
Anyway, after that Ingram seemed to be playing with more attitude.