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Old 02-27-2013, 09:45 PM   #11
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Benson must of had a very good weekend in Vegas. very good
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:31 PM   #12
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We must be close the cap now.The media keep saying its $15ml but didn't Loomis say it was around $10ml before Lofton restructure?.
Clearing the way for a LT?.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:15 AM   #13
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Well if your sure that player will be around and perform, its a win-win.

Most of these guys were due this money anyway, so it helps to restrucure (or balance out) the cap hits. They're calculated risks we really had no alternatives to.

Hawthorne - Minor risk, minor injuries last year.
Colston - Anything can happen, but I expect him around a few more years
Grubbs - OG's typically have a long NFL career. Grubbs was a safe risk.
Evans- See Grubbs comments

The only HUGE risk will be Brees. If we convert most of his money to guaranteed and he gets seriously injured, we're up Falcon creek without a paddle.

Its a gamble no doubt, but on the surface looks to be relatively safe.
So, you think that all of these players will perform at the current level, with no injuries, for the life of their contracts?
BTW, I bet the contracts were extended by at least one more year for each player.
Guaranteed $ is going to reset the NFL.
Prudent teams that don't rush into this boom market might have a dynasty in a few years.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:24 AM   #14
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One if the reports is saying we have added around $4.4ml to the 2014/15 caps by these deals.Better hope that cap rises with the new tv deal.
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The New Orleans Saints have restructured contracts with receiver Marques Colston and guards Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs to create more in salary-cap space, league sources have confirmed. They also restructured linebacker David Hawthorne's deal, according to ESPN.com. Add Hawthorne's reported restructuring and the Saints have cut around $10 million off their 2013 salary cap figure with these four reworked deals.

The deals don't involve pay cuts. Instead the players converted portions of their base salaries into signing bonuses -- a very common practice used by NFL teams to create short-term salary-cap relief.

As of last count, the Saints were estimated to be around $15 million over the projected 2013 salary cap of roughly $122 million-$123 million -- though that number is very fluid as they continue to rework deals and start to make some tender offers to their restricted free agents.

Evans' deal, which was confirmed by agent Jerrold Colton, will save the Saints roughly $3 million in 2013 cap space. According to salary figures, Evans' 2013 base salary is now $3.04 million, down from a scheduled $7.2 million. That difference was converted into signing bonus, so Evans will still get all the money up front. But for accounting purposes, that $4.2 million will be spread out over the final four years of his deal. It's the second consecutive offseason where the Saints have asked Evans to restructure his contract.

Grubbs' deal will also save the Saints $3 million in 2013 cap space, as first reported by ESPN.com's Pat Yasinskas. Grubbs converted $4 million of his 2013 salary into signing bonus. His base salary will go from $5.2 million to $1.2 million.

Hawthorne's deal will save the Saints $2.05 million, according to Yasinskas. He converted a scheduled $3 million roster bonus into a signing bonus.

Colston's deal was first reported by CBS' Jason La Canfora. Pro Football Talk later added details which have since been confirmed. Colston converted $2.8 million of his base salary into signing bonus, which will create $2.1 million in cap savings this year.

La Canfora also reported that the Saints have offered new, discounted deals to defensive end Will Smith and linebacker Jonathan Vilma that would allow them to stay. No specific details of such offers are known, but league sources have confirmed that the Saints and players have been discussing the possibility.

The Saints already restructured linebacker Curtis Lofton's contract in a similar fashion earlier this offseason, and released veteran tight end David Thomas.

The restructured contracts for Evans and Grubbs will add about $1 million to their respective salary cap numbers from 2014-2016 as each have three years left on their contracts after the 2013 season. Restructuring the deals for Colston and Hawthorne will add around $700,000 to each of their cap numbers from 2014-2016.

Add the $1 million per season from Lofton's restructured contract, and the Saints will add around $4.4 million to their salary cap figure each year from 2014-2016. Lofton will also add $1 million to the 2017 salary cap number.

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Old 02-28-2013, 03:36 AM   #16
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Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread

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The restructured contracts for Evans and Grubbs will add about $1 million to their respective salary cap numbers from 2014-2016 as each have three years left on their contracts after the 2013 season. Restructuring the deals for Colston and Hawthorne will add around $700,000 to each of their cap numbers from 2014-2016.

Add the $1 million per season from Lofton's restructured contract, and the Saints will add around $4.4 million to their salary cap figure each year from 2014-2016. Lofton will also add $1 million to the 2017 salary cap number.

-- Larry Holder contributed to this story.

But take away Smith's huge contract from that equation - and Villma's too - and it suddenly doesn't look half bad going forward.

And at least all of these guys who restructured - maybe besides Hawthorne - are known commodities, so even if their cap hits will increase a little bit, at least you know what you're paying for.
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:41 AM   #17
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We have added about $4.4ml to the next two(2014/15) caps.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:38 AM   #18
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You only do this with proven talent with the years to finish the deal.

Is there some risk? Sure...


Not as much risk as an onside kick after the half in the Super Bowl.

Quite frankly and please don't take offense, most of us manage a 401k and a checkbook at most. Maybe we should let a professional that has a proven track record do his job.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:11 AM   #19
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well lets see the final paper work when it as all said and done.

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Old 02-28-2013, 06:20 AM   #20
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Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread

More and more teams are going to start doing this type of thing once it catches on. The Saints and Loomis are actually at the forefront of the league with this stuff. New England always gets held out as an example of winning and being ridiculously $30 million under the cap every year or whatever, but they are really a freakish aberration, even replicating a fraction of that here is a good thing for any team.
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