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triman 03-04-2013 09:50 AM

Offense in Rd 1 could it happen ?
 
As always FA is going to affect how we approach the draft, I could see us going OT if we picked up an OLB (Anthony Spencer) even if we resign Bushrod.Lane Johnson would be a great pick IMHO Now where we get the cap space to do it is another ball of wax. It could happen. I don't see any other offense player that would warrant using our first pick on.
Free agency will always determine the strategy for the draft.I cant see us being a big player in FA this year

|Mitch| 03-04-2013 10:02 AM

Re: Offense in Rd 1 could it happen ?
 
I really can't fathom the thought of going offense with the 1st pick.

Maybe O-Line in the 3rd, but we need some serious front 7 help with the switch.

Crusader 03-04-2013 10:50 AM

Re: Offense in Rd 1 could it happen ?
 
If we don't resign Bushrod or get a LT in FA it wouldn't be surprising if we got one in round 1.

TheOak 03-04-2013 11:04 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if we draft offense in the first round. Ive mentioned it before, unless you are going to draft the impact player for 2013 I can see the Saints trying to strengthen an already strong offense before throwing a first round draft pick at a defense that may or may not get a lot better (better than 20th) in the off-season with one person.

Danno 03-04-2013 11:22 AM

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If its BPA? Yes I could see it, especially if we address holes during free-agency and the remaining defensive players all have 2nd/3rd round grades

If OT's Joeckel, Fisher or Johnson are there at 15, I could see it for sure.

QBREES9 03-04-2013 11:25 AM

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If thats the BPA then yeah.

Danno 03-04-2013 11:34 AM

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I'm curious,

If we did go offense in round 1, which players would NOT make you throw something in a temper tantrum hissy fit? Assuming we don't trade down.

Obviously free-agency will effect the draft, but I'd be ok with the top 3 OT's, and maybe, just maybe, that WR from UT.

lee909 03-04-2013 11:35 AM

Only the LT would be worth taking IMO.

papz 03-04-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 483358)
I'm curious,

If we did go offense in round 1, which players would NOT make you throw something in a temper tantrum hissy fit? Assuming we don't trade down.

Obviously free-agency will effect the draft, but I'd be ok with the top 3 OT's, and maybe, just maybe, that WR from UT.

None... as both Joeckel and Fisher are mocked in the top 10. Even if Fisher were there, and there were a sky high impact potential defensive player there, I'd still at least give it an eye roll.

It needs to be the BPA on defense. It has to be.

The difference in talent for the rest of the skill position players on offense are comparable. You find an equally as talented WR in the 1st as you could in the 4th... though that player probably would come with some baggage.

Watch we pull some crazy and draft Eifert. :computer:

jeanpierre 03-04-2013 12:39 PM

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Should Fisher, Joeckel, Lane, Warmck, or Barkley fall, I could see the Saints drafting one of those guys...

TheOak 03-04-2013 12:43 PM

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Tavon Austin _ Speed receiver runs a 4.34 40yd. rare excelleration. Reliable hands. Can also return.
Stealing him from Chicago would give me warm fuzzies.
WalterFootball.com: 2013 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Tavon Austin

I equate him to Darren Sproles as a WR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ob_YkwLiSI

Henderson replacement.

K Major 03-04-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by triman (Post 483332)
As always FA is going to affect how we approach the draft, I could see us going OT if we picked up an OLB (Anthony Spencer) even if we resign Bushrod.Lane Johnson would be a great pick IMHO Now where we get the cap space to do it is another ball of wax. It could happen. I don't see any other offense player that would warrant using our first pick on.
Free agency will always determine the strategy for the draft.I cant see us being a big player in FA this year

It appears Dallas is getting ready to put the franchise tag on Anthony Spencer.

triman 03-04-2013 07:20 PM

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I hope that someone wants to give us. a boat load of picks for Barkley

voodooido 03-04-2013 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by triman (Post 483332)
As always FA is going to affect how we approach the draft, I could see us going OT if we picked up an OLB (Anthony Spencer) even if we resign Bushrod.Lane Johnson would be a great pick IMHO Now where we get the cap space to do it is another ball of wax. It could happen. I don't see any other offense player that would warrant using our first pick on.
Free agency will always determine the strategy for the draft.I cant see us being a big player in FA this year

Spencer is being Franchised

voodooido 03-04-2013 07:40 PM

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If we go O in the 1st it will be OT.

jn671 03-04-2013 07:41 PM

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OL and DL talent is deep in the draft. if we trade down to acquire a late 1st round and 2nd round pick or if we trade down for an early 2nd and 3rd round pick would give us enough pics to draft quality player to add to our depth chart. it's a chance we could take given the fact that FA has not happened yet. of course, given what was said in the beginning, FA will definitely define our draft picks. i just hope sean and mickey make the right calls.

voodooido 03-04-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jn671 (Post 483494)
OL and DL talent is deep in the draft. if we trade down to acquire a late 1st round and 2nd round pick or if we trade down for an early 2nd and 3rd round pick would give us enough pics to draft quality player to add to our depth chart. it's a chance we could take given the fact that FA has not happened yet. of course, given what was said in the beginning, FA will definitely define our draft picks. i just hope sean and mickey make the right calls.

That would be best. I would like to trade out but I don't see it happening.

jn671 03-04-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 483497)
That would be best. I would like to trade out but I don't see it happening.

true, but it's a shot worth taking. I just hope we pull the right strings in FA. there may not be a lot of star power but there is quite a pool of depth in this this years FA class which i hope we jump on asap.

hagan714 03-05-2013 04:57 AM

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as long as the Rams stay quite in FA and wait til the draft to address the OL as so many think we will be sitting pretty good to calls on draft day.

Impact players are always the battle cry in round 1 BPA will rule

OT - area needs to be addressed
WR - a true #1 for the first time in years?
TE - graham does more duty in wr set so the saints can pay him more money. maybe? kidding. i hope

Crusader 03-05-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 483559)
as long as the Rams stay quite in FA and wait til the draft to address the OL as so many think we will be sitting pretty good to calls on draft day.

Impact players are always the battle cry in round 1 BPA will rule

OT - area needs to be addressed
WR - a true #1 for the first time in years?
TE - graham does more duty in wr set so the saints can pay him more money. maybe? kidding. i hope

Wouldn't you say that Colston is a true #1 WR?

lee909 03-05-2013 05:59 AM

I don't think we need a number 1 receiver.Thats the whole beauty of the offense.You shut down Colston,Graham lights you up you **** down both and Lance Moore gets 100yards.Defend against that a Sproles gets yards on short pass plays.Personally I'd get rid of two of the 5 backs and draft a prospect late,preferably a big bruiser to punch holes in short yardage.

TheOak 03-05-2013 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 483569)
I don't think we need a number 1 receiver.Thats the whole beauty of the offense.You shut down Colston,Graham lights you up you **** down both and Lance Moore gets 100yards.Defend against that a Sproles gets yards on short pass plays.Personally I'd get rid of two of the 5 backs and draft a prospect late,preferably a big bruiser to punch holes in short yardage.

Precisely, we do not run an offense with a primary receiver need.

hagan714 03-05-2013 08:13 AM

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i agree with the lack of need but we draft mech with that role in mind. drew makes due with what ever he has on the field.

by definition (mine) colston is not a #1 wr in the nfl. possession wr which usually falls into the #2

but like i said Drew makes this offense click.

Danno 03-05-2013 08:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 483569)
I don't think we need a number 1 receiver.Thats the whole beauty of the offense.You shut down Colston,Graham lights you up you **** down both and Lance Moore gets 100yards.Defend against that a Sproles gets yards on short pass plays.Personally I'd get rid of two of the 5 backs and draft a prospect late,preferably a big bruiser to punch holes in short yardage.

We have a pick your poison offense.

For the better part of 6 years we've lead the league in time of possession. Its a myth that we score too fast and don't let our defense rest.

TheOak 03-05-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 483597)
i agree with the lack of need but we draft mech with that role in mind. drew makes due with what ever he has on the field.

by definition (mine) colston is not a #1 wr in the nfl. possession wr which usually falls into the #2

but like i said Drew makes this offense click.

We did not draft Mech with that roll in mind. There is a huge difference between a big play WR and a #1 work horse WR. We spread the ball out.

Our possession WR is Lance Moore, hands down.

hagan714 03-05-2013 08:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 483609)
We did not draft Mech with that roll in mind. There is a huge difference between a big play WR and a #1 work horse WR. We spread the ball out.

Our possession WR is Lance Moore, hands down.

You do not draft a wr in round 1 with the idea of him being a role player

Now take Colston and Mix him Moore and you have a true #1

We do not need one but i always sit and wait for the next move to solidify the the other WR position on the field. Nope i do not see it on the roster.

Drew is doing great with 2 out of 3

burningmetal 03-05-2013 09:04 AM

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I would be surprised if we went with Offense, but I can never be shocked by anything these guys do. As much success as the Saints have had over the last several years in getting mid to late round gems, they have been ALMOST the exact reverse in the top two rounds. I've been floored by so many picks, I have lost count. We do desperately need an upgrade in at least one of the OT spots, but I think we can all agree that in the 1st round the defense is a more pressing need.

If the Saints don't see any players who they think can have a relatively immediate impact on defense, when they pick, then it is highly possible they go with an O-lineman.

K Major 03-05-2013 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 483609)
Our possession WR is Lance Moore, hands down.

And Mr. Moore was money on 3rd downs, keeping drives alive and running precise routes.

Shoe. 03-05-2013 10:25 AM

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Lance Moore!

My DAWG

When he missed that catch to keep Drew's TD streak alive (*ahem* which I choose to believe was thrown a tad high *ahem*) my jaw hit the ground and totally made the "anvil" sound effect from Looney Tunes.

He doesn't like getting hit after he makes a catch, but man he hardly ever misses if the ball is near him

Rugby Saint II 03-05-2013 01:50 PM

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It needs to be tackle! Whether it's offense or defense doesn't matter to me. These need to be addressed to make the other parts around them successful.

Danno 03-05-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 483688)
It needs to be tackle! Whether it's offense or defense doesn't matter to me. These need to be addressed to make the other parts around them successful.

True, until Bushrod re-signs or we sing a free-agent, LT is priority number 1.

After that I'd say Center. DLP won't cost us a fortune but I don't want to enter the draft needing one.

AllSaints 03-05-2013 06:08 PM

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If they draft offense ..... Imma go crazy ! We need passsssss rushersssv! Ya no why r secondary got burnt up last year cuz quarterbacks have allll day to throw the ball ! ! !

Crusader 03-06-2013 03:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 483745)
If they draft offense ..... Imma go crazy ! We need passsssss rushersssv! Ya no why r secondary got burnt up last year cuz quarterbacks have allll day to throw the ball ! ! !

Could somebody please translate that to english?

lee909 03-06-2013 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 483802)
Could somebody please translate that to english?

We have a bad defence

hagan714 03-06-2013 08:23 AM

Re: Offense in Rd 1 could it happen ?
 
i do not think it is so much the defense players we have as much as it was the DC.

Our defensive talent is not 32 in the nfl. definitely not 1 either. They jump above 25th with a new approach

we need to upgrade yes with out a doubt.

but to pass on offensive talent anywhere in the draft because of needs on defense is crazy.

gotta keep Drew loaded up to score points while this defense is tweaked. it is going to take 2 to 3 years to build on what we have


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