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WhoDat!656 03-04-2013 10:02 PM

Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 

westbankdaze 03-05-2013 06:17 AM

Brady. Brees still has alot to prove to take that spot.

Jamessr 03-05-2013 07:13 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
As much as it pains me to say this 5 super bowl appearences is impressive.
The fact he hasn't won any since spy gate is questioning.

dizzle88 03-05-2013 07:14 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Brees forces alot of passes, alot more than brady

When then arent picked they are great plays for us, but they are often picked by the defense

TheOak 03-05-2013 08:01 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
A better question would be to break the questions down:

REMOVE SB's, they are a function of a QB AND, a running game, a defense, a Coach, team health, etc...

Who is the better passer? Drew Brees king of accuracy

Who is more mobile? Drew Brees - Only because Brady is a palm tree

Who is the better Leader? Debatable

Who does Xan like more - Brady

So there you have it: Brees 2.5, Brady 1.5

Jamessr 03-05-2013 08:19 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
god this conversation can go so many ways.
In the end.. the big game defines everything. if you throw that back in... Sorry Brady has been more successful

hagan714 03-05-2013 08:25 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
you have to look at the rings yes but that is a team achievement.

I would rank it a draw

TheOak 03-05-2013 08:30 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 483600)
god this conversation can go so many ways.
In the end.. the big game defines everything. if you throw that back in... Sorry Brady has been more successful


Where has Drew failed in the big game? Brady has been to the big game more but that is not entirely his doing.

If you want to do big game then compare Brady's big game stats to Drews.


That is the only want to remove the Belichick factor.

Jamessr 03-05-2013 08:44 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
I get your point, as much as I like Drew 5 Superbowl is impressive.

Mardigras9 03-05-2013 08:58 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Brees without question, don't care how many superbowl rings. Brees is just better at almost every aspect of the QB positionas its own entity.

Rugby Saint II 03-05-2013 02:01 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Drew can throw for over 5,000 yards with ease and consistently sets records almost every week. He leads a less talented team and always has them in the game. Besides Drew is more loveable in my opinion. Have you ever seen one of his commercials? He knows how to poke fun at himself.
He is also a huge contributor to the community.

What we need to debate is who has the hottest wife? :bng:

onebyone 03-05-2013 02:23 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
I would take Brees over Brady any day of the week.

Of course, whether or not I would be making a smart decision is much less clear.

NinthWardJay 03-05-2013 02:47 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
If you were to take Brady and put him on the Saints would he be just as successful or more successfull than if you were to put Brees on the Patriots and vice versa

NinthWardJay 03-05-2013 02:52 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 483692)
Have you ever seen one of his commercials? He knows how to poke fun at himself.
He is also a huge contributor to the community.

:bng:

I love the commercial when Drew asks the guy for Nyquil in the store and the clerk tosses it to him and Drew drops it. Then Drew looks at the clerk, points at him and says "You didnt see that:
LMAO

papz 03-05-2013 02:54 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Brady

While Brees has better accuracy, Brady is the better passer with the stronger arm.

SloMotion 03-05-2013 05:20 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
What can you say about one that you can't say about the other? Brees breaks the season passing record, Brady is right behind him. Brady's won a few SuperBowls, Drew's got one too.

I was not a big fan of Brady in college (Michigan), but he was a competitor and he wins. He wasn't supposed to be a starter in college or the NFL, being drafted in the 6th round.

Brady is one mentally tough m'fer and that's where I would give him the edge.

44Champs 03-05-2013 05:41 PM

The real question is: Who has the hotter wife?

Vrillon82 03-05-2013 09:15 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
I feel TOm Brady playing in the NFC would of never got as far as he has.

I think the soft AFC and drawing up two 2nd rate teams in the SB (Philly and Carolina) padded Brady's success a good bit.

I think a Drew Brees in the AFC = More than 1 SB appearance.

I aint talking about his time in San Diego under that mess of Coaching.

WhoDat!656 03-05-2013 10:11 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
If Brady is the pinnacle of QBs, why have the Patriots only managed to win their 3 Super Bowls by a combined 9 points?

Seems to me like the success of the Pats in Super Bowls should go to their kicker!!

voodooido 03-06-2013 07:44 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 483573)
Brady. Brees still has alot to prove to take that spot.

Prove? What more would he have to do? Do you remember the Saints before Brees? Also, if you were down by 6 points with 2 min left who would you pick? I would say Brees by far.

Beastmode 03-06-2013 08:05 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
In a skills test: Brees

jeanpierre 03-06-2013 10:55 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Peyton.

SloMotion 03-07-2013 05:15 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 483743)
The real question is: Who has the hotter wife?

IDK, these guys are neck-n-neck even in their personal lives, :lol:. Have to give this one to DB, never been a big fan of 'Giselle'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 483771)
If Brady is the pinnacle of QBs, why have the Patriots only managed to win their 3 Super Bowls by a combined 9 points?

Seems to me like the success of the Pats in Super Bowls should go to their kicker!!

That's the beauty of Brady, I don't know what it is, he's always been counted out, but he's always there at the end ... so I guess it would be because he wins. The guy just overcomes any/all obstacles, it's really quite impressive, :lol:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 484038)
Prove? What more would he have to do? Do you remember the Saints before Brees? Also, if you were down by 6 points with 2 min left who would you pick? I would say Brees by far.

If I were in a bar watching a game, which I frequently am :mrgreen:, and either one of these guys were down & had the ball with two minutes to go, I'd feel comfortable betting on either. If I had to choose between the two, the only guy I would choose over Brees would be Brady. Brady is "Mr. 4thQtr", though he is getting a little long-in-the-tooth.

It's not that I'm that big Brady-fan, it's just I watched him at Michigan, disliked him, but came to respect him for the sheer gamesmanship & tenacity he displayed in college and the NFL as well ... much like how I loathe Jim Harbaugh (another Michigan-man), but realize he's gonna' bring it on game day.

Brady - (26) 4QC, (37) GWD Tom Brady's Career 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Brees - (5) 4QC, (9) GWD Drew Brees's Career 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives - Pro-Football-Reference.com

thefifthwall 03-07-2013 08:15 AM

Got to give the edge to Drew. Eliminate the team achievements and look at when he needs to DO IT it's done. And he gets it done with anybody & everybody as his receivers. Strictly comparing QBs, you'd have to compare Drew with Montana

Jamessr 03-07-2013 08:27 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thefifthwall (Post 484123)
Eliminate the team achievements and look at when he needs to DO IT it's done.

How do you elminate team achievments from a "team" sport.
All of Drews records have come from assitance from the team.

Even 4th quarter come backs are not the result of 1 man...

WillSaints81 03-07-2013 09:23 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Brees is better. If you look at the entire AFC, there have been only five teams in that conference who have done anything. In recent years the first emotional team to play the pats knocked them out. They got good draws in 11, but ravens this year and jets in 10 took them out. Brady's postseason qb rating is also worse than Brees since those three rings. When you play the same teams every year you're eventually gonna get a chance to break through and go. But drawing Jacksonville/San Diego and Denver pre-Peyton/Baltimore who wasnt quite ready had a lot to do with those sb appearances. I'm pretty sure the next time Brady faces Manning, Big Ben, or Rex again in playoffs he will lose. I think when looking back it was pats defense and Viniateri that deserve the most credit for those sb wins except for the one against panthers. Brady worked for that one.

Brady in 10 playoff appearances has 17 wins out of 24 games. And nine of them were in his first three appearances, all sb wins. Thats 8 wins out of 15 appearances, roughly 50%.

Brees in 4 playoff appearances has 5 wins out of 8 games. Its about the same percentage wise. With Brady's total including the sb wins, he has around a 70% success rate. Brees has a 62% success rate.

In this current era Brees has played better in the "big time" games.

Papa Voodoo 03-07-2013 11:06 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
How would Tom have done as a Saint is a good question. I think we all agree Drew would have done well as a Patriot.

TheOak 03-07-2013 11:30 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Well there you go..... Its settled.

We have 1/2 of the best Qbs in the league.

xan 03-07-2013 11:47 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 483594)
A better question would be to break the questions down:

REMOVE SB's, they are a function of a QB AND, a running game, a defense, a Coach, team health, etc...

Who is the better passer? Drew Brees king of accuracy

Who is more mobile? Drew Brees - Only because Brady is a palm tree

Who is the better Leader? Debatable

Who does Xan like more - Brady

So there you have it: Brees 2.5, Brady 1.5

wha wha whaaaa?

xan 03-07-2013 11:52 AM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
For the record, i want Drew Brees with Tom Brady's salary cap structure.

Jamessr 03-07-2013 12:23 PM

Re: Drew Brees or Tom Brady: Who is the better NFL QB?
 
I think they would have done well with either team. TBH both are great QB's.
However!!! I think when brady took over the pats they were in alot better shape than when Brees took over the Saints. So yeah I guess Brady has had more to work with over the years.


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